jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Defund the Police began after the Ferguson Riots, which were in 2014.

I can't find any evidence that the slogan was at all popular before George Floyd's death. If you do any Internet searches, the oldest hits are in 2020.

JLG is so far left wing, she’s an unashamed Democratic Socialist after all, that she was promoting this radical policy of defunding the police before it got popular. She was the cutting edge, the vanguard of the defund movement.

Even if this is true, why did she never mention it again? After that, the only time "Defund the Police" came up, it was coming from her opponents. That is a really strange way to handle what some claim was the ""signature issue" of her campaign. Don't candidates normally talk about their "signature issue" quite a bit?

You could ask her? She was running for public office and trying to get elected. As a result, I am going to guess that she was saying things that she thought would get her votes and not saying things that she thought wouldn’t get votes. She’s a smart lady, so she stopped saying it.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Defund the Police began after the Ferguson Riots, which were in 2014.

I can't find any evidence that the slogan was at all popular before George Floyd's death. If you do any Internet searches, the oldest hits are in 2020.

JLG is so far left wing, she’s an unashamed Democratic Socialist after all, that she was promoting this radical policy of defunding the police before it got popular. She was the cutting edge, the vanguard of the defund movement.

Were you pro-police brutality before it was popular? Perhaps you can run on that platform.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Defund the Police began after the Ferguson Riots, which were in 2014.

I can't find any evidence that the slogan was at all popular before George Floyd's death. If you do any Internet searches, the oldest hits are in 2020.

JLG is so far left wing, she’s an unashamed Democratic Socialist after all, that she was promoting this radical policy of defunding the police before it got popular. She was the cutting edge, the vanguard of the defund movement.

Even if this is true, why did she never mention it again? After that, the only time "Defund the Police" came up, it was coming from her opponents. That is a really strange way to handle what some claim was the ""signature issue" of her campaign. Don't candidates normally talk about their "signature issue" quite a bit?

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Defund the Police began after the Ferguson Riots, which were in 2014.

I can't find any evidence that the slogan was at all popular before George Floyd's death. If you do any Internet searches, the oldest hits are in 2020.

JLG is so far left wing, she’s an unashamed Democratic Socialist after all, that she was promoting this radical policy of defunding the police before it got popular. She was the cutting edge, the vanguard of the defund movement.

Just voted today, and happy to do so for Janeese. Jeff put it pretty well above - I agree with him on these points.

To the haters: your propaganda isn't working well. Good luck / sorry you're wasting so much time.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Defund the Police began after the Ferguson Riots, which were in 2014.

I can't find any evidence that the slogan was at all popular before George Floyd's death. If you do any Internet searches, the oldest hits are in 2020.

People who vote for her and Chuck are fools who simply do not care about kids or victims’ families. They are ruining this city.

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Defund the Police began after the Ferguson Riots, which were in 2014.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Are you on JLG’s payroll? You should tell us if you’re being paid to spread this bullshit

No. Please point out anything that is not accurate in my post. In my earlier post, I provided links to support everything I posted. Who is paying you?

jsteele wrote:That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Are you on JLG’s payroll? You should tell us if you’re being paid to spread this bullshit

That tweet has an interesting history. Note the date, October, 21, 2019. The "Defund the Police" movement did not really get started until after the death of George Floyd in May 2020. To believe the DC Police Union, DFER — who used the tweet in multiple mailers for which it later apologized because they were deceptive — and Brandon Todd, JLG was six months ahead of the movement. What actually happened is that JLG launched her campaign based on issues such as affordable housing, affordable childcare, and access to healthcare. Among her concerns was the militarization of police who were increasingly receiving military weapons. If you look back at what she was saying at that time, it dealt with preventing this militarization which she wanted to stop and used the funds in more appropriate ways.

The fact that JLG opponents have nothing beyond a 2019 tweet to support their claims that "defund the police" was the "signature issue" of her campaign tells you everything you need to know. That tweet was actually the signature issue of JLG's opponents. As DFER later said with regard to mailers that printed the tweet, "These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety... We made a mistake".

DFER, to its credit, says it learned from the mistake. The DC Police Union and the anonymous poster here, clearly has not.

Errr...

Anonymous wrote:Wow.

You are REALLY invested in helping out JLG. That’s the longest and most involved and elaborate post I’ve read from you in years.

Well, I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to send out misleading mailers like her opponents. So, I do what I can do. I think it is important to set the record straight.

Wow.

You are REALLY invested in helping out JLG. That’s the longest and most involved and elaborate post I’ve read from you in years.

Anonymous wrote:
What? Her signature issue has always been defunding the police. It was the whole reason she was even in office. It was the center of everything she did.

It’s bizarre that she now suddenly pretends otherwise. It would be like Grover Norquist suddenly saying he doesn’t care about taxes anymore.

They say that if you repeat something often enough it becomes fact. Perhaps that is true because it seems to have worked for the Washington Post which has bought this myth hook, line, and sinker. But, I want to set the record straight.

Janeese Lewis George's 2020 campaign website can be found at the Wayback Machine (assuming it is not being DDOS'd as it has been the pat few days):

https://web.archive.org/web/20190925204320/https://www.janeese4dc.com/

Towards the bottom, the home page has a section titled "What Janeese Stands For". It lists:

Tackling the housing affordability crisis

Demanding accountability and integrity from elected leaders

Ensuring affordable child care and quality neighborhood schools

Preventing crime and advancing community safety

Creating an inclusive economy

Advancing healthcare for all

Creating transportation equity

Taking on the environmental crisis

Fighting for Statehood

"Defund the Police" is not included, much less featured as her "signature issue".

Similar, the website's "Issues" page available here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200425113124/https://www.janeese4dc.com/issues/

It doesn't say anything about defunding the police. The section on "Preventing crime and advancing community safety" says:

DC is at a criminal justice crossroads. Some want us to double down on decades of failed public safety policies that have led to mass incarceration of mostly black and brown residents without stopping the rise in violent crime. As a former Assistant Attorney General, Janeese knows that the old model doesn’t work. We need to get smarter, proactively preventing crime by adopting a public health approach. To start, that means taking on domestic violence perpetrators, getting guns off of our streets, fully implementing the NEAR Act, and keeping ICE out of our communities. As our Ward 4 Councilmember, Janeese will combine her experience in reducing recidivism with a bold agenda that ensures a safer future for everyone.

Here is an article written by a very sympathetic source back in 2020:

https://www.shondaland.com/act/news-politics/a34331578/why-i-ran-for-the-first-time-janeese-lewis-george/

It says this:

But her platform — which focused on issues like affordable housing, labor rights, and criminal justice reform — resonated and she managed to build significant support, participating in the district's first public campaign-financing program.

Again, "Defund the Police" is not mentioned.

Here is the Washington Post writing in June 2020:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/06/19/janeese-lewis-george-democratic-socialist-who-beat-one-dc-mayors-allies-says-shell-be-pragmatic-council-member/

In this article it says:

But when George was asked what was atop her list for her first days on the council, assuming she joins the body in January, her response was a lengthy, enthusiastic explanation of all the street intersections she has been visiting, noting where she’d like to see new traffic lights and speed bumps.

Nothing about defunding the police.

What was really happening back then is that JLG had a nuanced position regarding police funding. She explained her views in this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/07/protests-defund-police/

in which she said:

George said she does not want to abolish the police department, but she wants to decrease its budget and invest the money in programs such as violence interruption, which puts community members in neighborhoods to try to de-escalate conflicts and thwart violence before it happens. Council member Trayon White Sr. (D-Ward 8) said Sunday that he also wants more violence interrupters, criticizing Mayor Muriel E. Bowser’s budget proposal that made cuts to the program.

“I don’t think it’s an issue that we can put into one sentence, like defund the police,” George said. “But time and time again, where the leadership is lacking, they lean on wanting to do the same thing and expecting a different result.”

Note that she explicitly rejected the expression "defund the police".

In this article, The Washington City Paper explains how DFER, allegedly a pro school reform organization, spent huge sums of money on flyers that misrepresented JLG's positions:

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/304500/a-national-procharter-school-group-is-flooding-dc-mailboxes-with-campaign-flyers-this-cycle

DFER's mailers were so clearly wrong that the head of the local organization had to essentially apologize saying:

https://dfer.org/2020/06/07/dfer-dc-releases-statement-on-organizational-values-and-ward-4-primary/

These mailers oversimplified a more nuanced conversation about public safety without calling out the problematic history of policing Black people, causing misunderstanding and pain on an issue vitally important to the students and families DFER-DC serves. We have taken the time to reflect on the implications of these mailers: We made a mistake, and we have learned from it.

So, just to summarize. Before the last election Janeese Lewis George had many priorities more important than police funding reform. However, her opponents intentionally sought to portray her as a proponent of defunding the police. Those attacks were false and misleading, so much so that one of the leading purveyors of the myth had to issue a retraction. Now, four years later, her opponents are arguing that a position that was falsely conveyed by her opponents was her "signature issue". It was not her issue at all and especially not her signature issue.

Those trying to spread this lie about Janeese Lewis George are liars who are spreading a lie that didn't work before and will not work now.