Anonymous
05/23/2024 12:35
Subject: Re:Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:So some are complaining that kids never get moved down when they should and others are complaining that kids are getting moved down for outside players. Maybe let the coaches do their jobs.
Don’t discount the impact little Johnny’s mommy or daddy have on calling Arlington coaches and management, trying to influence and advocate on behalf of their kid(s). May explain, I’m part, why so many outside-of-Arlington players are added.
Anonymous
05/23/2024 11:02
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Does anyone understand the plan for the new pre-academy teams they added this year at the younger age groups? Will they play NCSL and push other teams down or is something else happening?
Anonymous
05/23/2024 11:02
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Yes, they are not mutually exclusive. Also the coaches don’t always choose.
Anonymous
05/23/2024 10:55
Subject: Re:Arlington travel tryouts
So some are complaining that kids never get moved down when they should and others are complaining that kids are getting moved down for outside players. Maybe let the coaches do their jobs.
Anonymous
05/23/2024 03:46
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Apparently something like McLean no longer having a path to ECNL, so the McLean kids who want ECNL tried out for Arlington teams since Arlington still has ECNL.
Are current Arlington players being pushed out for these new McLean players?
According to these posts, yes.
But I don't actually know for sure.
Yes they are. I know for sure.
Anonymous
05/23/2024 02:59
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Arlington coaches don’t coach. Kids scrimmage 24x7.
You are confused about coaching/practicing versus training
YAWN…
Anonymous
05/23/2024 00:24
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Apparently something like McLean no longer having a path to ECNL, so the McLean kids who want ECNL tried out for Arlington teams since Arlington still has ECNL.
Are current Arlington players being pushed out for these new McLean players?
At least one on a younger ECNL age team. Kid was probably going to be pushed down either way
I think certain age groups and probably boys were affected the most. Yes, current players are absolutely being pushed out, down, or just not up (for top kids expected to move up). There’s also a few new coaches from other clubs who supposedly are “bringing kids over” with them, though I have not seen evidence of that yet.
No, the kids I know of who were moved down should not have been moved down “either way”. I think this implies that the kid deserved it cause they just weren’t good, or have parents who can’t see that. Ironically, the kids whom we thought *should* move down either way (including some we thought for sure would, cause they should have moved down last year!), didn’t.
Our kids were not moved down so we’re not biased from that perspective at least. But they have been teammates who definitely should not have been moved down, and certainly not moved down multiple levels. If you’re bringing in all these amazing outside players, then sure. But by now we have seen many of the ones under serious consideration, some of whom we know did end up getting offers. *None* were any better than the current team players.
Anonymous
05/22/2024 22:09
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Apparently something like McLean no longer having a path to ECNL, so the McLean kids who want ECNL tried out for Arlington teams since Arlington still has ECNL.
Are current Arlington players being pushed out for these new McLean players?
At least one on a younger ECNL age team. Kid was probably going to be pushed down either way
Anonymous
05/22/2024 22:06
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Apparently something like McLean no longer having a path to ECNL, so the McLean kids who want ECNL tried out for Arlington teams since Arlington still has ECNL.
Are current Arlington players being pushed out for these new McLean players?
According to these posts, yes.
But I don't actually know for sure.
Anonymous
05/22/2024 22:04
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Apparently something like McLean no longer having a path to ECNL, so the McLean kids who want ECNL tried out for Arlington teams since Arlington still has ECNL.
Are current Arlington players being pushed out for these new McLean players?
Anonymous
05/22/2024 22:03
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Apparently something like McLean no longer having a path to ECNL, so the McLean kids who want ECNL tried out for Arlington teams since Arlington still has ECNL.
Anonymous
05/22/2024 21:44
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
What are the big changes happening this year? Have there been drastic shifts across all age groups? How many returning players are getting cut for new players? And where are the new players coming from? Other clubs or Arlington?
Anonymous
05/22/2024 19:28
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:received 2015 B Arlington offer for Silver which is the lowest team and have DCSC offer for Red which is 2nd team. Thanks for the advice as DCSC is freely letting me delay my decision. I'm torn as to which one to take.
Can you handle the commute to DCSC practices? If so, much clearer path there to #1 team at a young age if that is your goal. The practices may be more competitive (development). It is a good club. However, depending on the depth of the 2015B group at Arlington and DC's level, the Arlington Silver team could be a good, competitive environment for development.
Arlington tends to lock in players to tiers at very young ages and stick to it. Part of it is that there are just so many players trying out at a young age (hard to get a handle on it). Plus, they get a lot of new players externally and at Arlington the tie-breaker goes to external players for placement onto higher teams. Even if your DC develops, you will have a hard road getting them advanced to higher tier teams, but not impossible. Ironically, going to DCSC at a young age may put you into better position for placement on a higher Arlington team down the road (again, if that is your goal).
I have no idea how to tell if the 2nd DC team is any good compared to the last Arlington team but do know of a few players who were moved up from Gold & Black onto Red & white... Don't have a clue as to what is better at this point. Don't want to burn the Arlington bridge
Good luck getting past Red if you are at pre-academy/academy team and you are not one of the coaches golden children. Arlington wants you to “trust the system” for years but then hauls in a majority of outside players when it really counts.
That’s all you need to know about the program.
This isn't exclusive to Arlington. You need to prove that you are substantially better than multiple current top team players in order to be promoted. Other clubs also have this philosophy. There are usually only one or two who break through over the years. Yes, while it's not necessarily fair, that's how the system works. Your options are to try out at other clubs. If your kid is not offered top team there either, then maybe it's time to look within and accept there's something not clicking. Will also say that a good portion of US soccer coaches couldn't identify talent in front of them because they are interested in kickball style winning. Among Arlington's perceived faults, this is not one.
Its complete BS. My kids left after years of the crap. Ended up on MLSNext and different ECNL team. Senior is going to play D1 next year. We could have just stayed for years getting 'looked over' in slower leagues with less talent and not get any better...or we could do what we did--look out for our kids and move them around to get the best coaching and development and not rely on one coach or hierarchy to be the authority on whether the kid has talent. My kid is one of three kids from his group way back in ASA that is going onto play D1 next year. The vast majority fizzled out or quit.
Have your kid seen by many different people that can give unbiased opinions on what they need---this is not in a tryout situation, btw. And don't lose sight on 'the team', but always look each year: what has my kid learned, has he/she gotten better, are they being challenged, are they getting minutes, is the speed of league play fast(older groups). But most of all--let the kid decide on their own how much work they want to do and where they want to go. Fun with friends, hs team or serious commitment.
But waiting around to hopefully magically 'break through' over the years...not enough time and too deep of teams. You are just paying to support everyone else.
Where did your kid move to from ASA? We are considering a move next year.
Anonymous
05/22/2024 18:51
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Maybe it's the money. Counting on current kids to stay even if they get moved down, while getting new outside kids to also pay/play
Anonymous
05/22/2024 18:49
Subject: Arlington travel tryouts
Anonymous wrote:This is every club if you want to move up move clubs. It’s like switching jobs to get more money
Well of course now we know better, but that still doesn’t answer the question, why go through the effort of getting outside players who are obviously worse than your current ones? Like who cares if you got a flood of new kids trying out this year, if they’re worse than what you have?