Ok - I’m corrected in the student populations.

For undergrad Michigan has 33K and UT 41K. UT has 8K more undergrad students. 18K grad students at Mich and 10K at UT.

My point still stands. UT is a smaller, compact campus. Michigan is 3,070 acres and UT Austin is 423.5. Being in a city, UT can sprawl on for miles.

“ Yes, the UT campus is large but it’s a school for 50K. For that many students I actually found the campus to be compact. Compare to Michigan with its North Campus and Central Campus. Michigan has about 20K less students.”

You could make your point without incorrect “facts.”
Both schools have about 52,000 students. Graduate students count too!

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Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Regarding the Manhattan comment, can you name the “wealthiest” part of Dallas? Manhattan is one of the 5 boroughs of NYC. It’s a section/part of a city and the wealthiest part of the city. Highland Park is the wealthiest part of Dallas and about 3.5 hrs from Austin. Similar to the distance between NYC and DC. They would probably roll their eyes at you if didn’t know Highland Park.

I doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Regarding the Manhattan comment, can you name the “wealthiest” part of Dallas? Manhattan is one of the 5 boroughs of NYC. It’s a section/part of a city and the wealthiest part of the city. Highland Park is the wealthiest part of Dallas and about 3.5 hrs from Austin. Similar to the distance between NYC and DC. They would probably roll their eyes at you if didn’t know Highland Park.

I’ve heard of Highland Park. Then again I was a Geography major in college. I stand by my comments about the lack of basic Geographical knowledge in this country. The ignorance is staggering .

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.

You attended an information session and you don’t even know the name of the college(s)? Of all the things that never happened, this didn’t happen the most.

There is a College of Liberal Arts at UT, but it does not include either art or sciences. Art is in the College of Fine Arts. Science is in the College of Natural Sciences.

If you’re going to make stuff up, at least do a basic amount of research first.

I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I was simply commenting on a student unaware of the borough of Manhattan in NYC.

Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Regarding the Manhattan comment, can you name the “wealthiest” part of Dallas? Manhattan is one of the 5 boroughs of NYC. It’s a section/part of a city and the wealthiest part of the city. Highland Park is the wealthiest part of Dallas and about 3.5 hrs from Austin. Similar to the distance between NYC and DC. They would probably roll their eyes at you if didn’t know Highland Park.

Anonymous wrote:We went to in info session for the Arts & Sciences school. It was disappointing. The presentation was totally focused on outcomes - jobs, internships etc. Barely a word was said about classes, learning, books, discussion etc. you would think Arts & Sciences would focus on the excitement of learning. Campus is massive and core classes in the first year are 400+ kids. May be a good school for pre professional kids who just want a job, but I doubt many kids come out of there with a thirst for learning/curiosity etc.

Having just gone through the college process with 2 kids…Yes, the UT campus is large but it’s a school for 50K. For that many students I actually found the campus to be compact. Compare to Michigan with its North Campus and Central Campus. Michigan has about 20K less students. I find he Michigan campus to be much larger.

400 students in an intro class. Not shocked. I asked students about the large class size on the Cornell tour. She said some intro class had a 1,000.

And it’s funny, on other tours I found many schools did not talk about student outcomes and placements. Frankly isn’t that why kids go to college? What are they going to do with a degree from x university? Will they need to go to grad school afterwards? Weren’t many of you the same folks worried about getting your kids into the right high school for colleges? I specifically asked students on other college tours some of these questions. Some of the answers were shocking. UT could tell me what % of kids had internships between freshman and sophomore year. They also told me the average hourly rate. At an ivy, the response was “not many” for students in the same major. It was mainly between junior and senior year. And those students that got internships after freshman year, it was because of personal networking. Nothing from college. A thirst for learning can look different - some students prefer to try out different jobs and careers and learn that way vs stuck in a library with books. Just look at Northeastern’s co-op model.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.

They no longer teach geography in schools so this is no surprise. The only required social studies courses at my kids’ middle and high are ancient history (6), civics (7th), American history (8th and 10th), world history (9th), economics/government (11th). When I was in school we had to take 2 years of geography as well. They should still require geography.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.

You attended an information session and you don’t even know the name of the college(s)? Of all the things that never happened, this didn’t happen the most.

There is a College of Liberal Arts at UT, but it does not include either art or sciences. Art is in the College of Fine Arts. Science is in the College of Natural Sciences.

If you’re going to make stuff up, at least do a basic amount of research first.

Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

They have a school of natural sciences. Those are actually liberal Arts disciplines.

Anonymous wrote:Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Lack of basic Geographical awareness is pervasive throughout the United States and has been for decades. It should come as no surprise to experience it anywhere in this country. Truly sad state of affairs.

Of course UT has an arts & science school - it’s called the College of Liberal Arts. Also, one of the student presenters had not heard of Manhattan (NY), which was mildly concerning. Definitely a wide range of students there.

Anonymous wrote:We went to in info session for the Arts & Sciences school. It was disappointing. The presentation was totally focused on outcomes - jobs, internships etc. Barely a word was said about classes, learning, books, discussion etc. you would think Arts & Sciences would focus on the excitement of learning. Campus is massive and core classes in the first year are 400+ kids. May be a good school for pre professional kids who just want a job, but I doubt many kids come out of there with a thirst for learning/curiosity etc.

Join a book club. You can both prepare yourself for the professional world AND have a thirst for learning. It's not either/or.
On UT, my son's friends are mostly going to be studying engineering and the schools they have chosen for next year include: UT Austin, GA Tech, UIUC, and Purdue. All great schools, all a pretty good value.

UT Austin's strengths are in computer science, engineering, business (McCombs) and Plan II Honors.

The honors programs in these departments are particularly strong.

An overall ranking is sort of meaningless, because it mixes high-ranking and lower ranking departments. For example, UT's CS department is a top 10 program (#7). But other departments might drag the overall university ranking down. Undergraduates must gain admission to a specific department; the top 6% rule only guarantees admission to UT, but NOT to a given department. Students trying for Turing Honors or McComb honors are typically in the top 2-3% of their class.

Anonymous wrote:We went to in info session for the Arts & Sciences school. It was disappointing. The presentation was totally focused on outcomes - jobs, internships etc. Barely a word was said about classes, learning, books, discussion etc. you would think Arts & Sciences would focus on the excitement of learning. Campus is massive and core classes in the first year are 400+ kids. May be a good school for pre professional kids who just want a job, but I doubt many kids come out of there with a thirst for learning/curiosity etc.

There is no "Arts and Sciences school" at UT Austin.