Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, for the progressives, conservatives have a lot more kids. This trend holds within communities and across different density levels. So the conservative people are likely to inherit the earth in the long-run.
Conservatives give birth to liberals.
They aren’t clones, they’re kids
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of factors.
Women wanting a career more than a family.
Young people not wanting to marry let alone start a family.
Young people more interested in social media than actual human contact.
Egocentricity - more concerned with one's own needs and not wanting to worry about the needs of another.
The economy and unwillingness to sacrifice luxuries for the benefit of another.
The world does not need more humans. Having a baby is selfish and done to fulfill one's self. You are not making some grand sacrifice for the world, this is about you and yours.
If everyone stopped having babies, humans would cease to exist. Seems that is what you want.
Despite your beliefs, having children is a sacrifice. It is also a blessing and an experience so rewarding that those who choose to not have children will never experience.
Okay, so it's a sacrifice, but it's also "a blessing and an experience so rewarding." Sounds like you think this blessing and rewarding experience is a terrific benefit to you overall. Great. Go for it. But that's not a grand sacrifice overall that you are doing to benefit humanity instead of yourself. You just contradicted that.
Oh, please. Any parent who tells you that they did not make sacrifices to have children are just lying or are not very good parents.
And, how do you know that one of the children that I gave birth to and sacrificed for is not the next Einstein or Mother Theresa?
There is no contradiction to saying that having kids is both a sacrifice and a blessing and rewarding experience.
You don't want kids? Fine. Don't have them. But, don't go around criticizing others for wanting the joy of having a family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all you saying that having kids is selfish, that is only true on a social levels, perhaps, if you are obsessed about global warming. On a personal level, in terms of personal growth and development, having kids is absolutely a lesson in humility and self sacrifice. I can't think of anything else more selfless than everything we parents do for our kids on a daily basis.
But us is still all about how you feel in the end. That is the definition of selfishness.
I don't think you understand what selfish means. It's not all about feelings. Real love is never selfish, and the act of parenting is a crash course on the meaning of love.
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, for the progressives, conservatives have a lot more kids. This trend holds within communities and across different density levels. So the conservative people are likely to inherit the earth in the long-run.
Anonymous wrote:For all you saying that having kids is selfish, that is only true on a social levels, perhaps, if you are obsessed about global warming. On a personal level, in terms of personal growth and development, having kids is absolutely a lesson in humility and self sacrifice. I can't think of anything else more selfless than everything we parents do for our kids on a daily basis.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yikes, most of you have way too much anxiety. No wonder the kids are so anxious and depressed. Repeat after me. You live in the most prosperous community that has ever existed in human history. If you cannot find a way to have a child that you want in this society, then it's not our country that is the problem (and I'm not saying country is perfect). It's you.
For those who don't want kids, great. Don't have them. It is the people who claim they would love kids but just can't because of x,y,z.
“Yikes, some of you have way too little empathy.”
Global warming isn’t going to spare the US, and just because you’re fat and happy, figuratively speaking, doesn’t mean everyone is. Again, many people are essentially barely surviving despite having done everything “right.” My husband and I did everything right and have a comfortable result, but we understand the enormous luck that we got at various points. I understand that our fellow millennials aren’t all equally situated.
Grow a clue, in other words.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of factors.
Women wanting a career more than a family.
Young people not wanting to marry let alone start a family.
Young people more interested in social media than actual human contact.
Egocentricity - more concerned with one's own needs and not wanting to worry about the needs of another.
The economy and unwillingness to sacrifice luxuries for the benefit of another.
The world does not need more humans. Having a baby is selfish and done to fulfill one's self. You are not making some grand sacrifice for the world, this is about you and yours.
If everyone stopped having babies, humans would cease to exist. Seems that is what you want.
Despite your beliefs, having children is a sacrifice. It is also a blessing and an experience so rewarding that those who choose to not have children will never experience.
Okay, so it's a sacrifice, but it's also "a blessing and an experience so rewarding." Sounds like you think this blessing and rewarding experience is a terrific benefit to you overall. Great. Go for it. But that's not a grand sacrifice overall that you are doing to benefit humanity instead of yourself. You just contradicted that.
Oh, please. Any parent who tells you that they did not make sacrifices to have children are just lying or are not very good parents.
And, how do you know that one of the children that I gave birth to and sacrificed for is not the next Einstein or Mother Theresa?
There is no contradiction to saying that having kids is both a sacrifice and a blessing and rewarding experience.
You don't want kids? Fine. Don't have them. But, don't go around criticizing others for wanting the joy of having a family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For all you saying that having kids is selfish, that is only true on a social levels, perhaps, if you are obsessed about global warming. On a personal level, in terms of personal growth and development, having kids is absolutely a lesson in humility and self sacrifice. I can't think of anything else more selfless than everything we parents do for our kids on a daily basis.
But us is still all about how you feel in the end. That is the definition of selfishness.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yikes, most of you have way too much anxiety. No wonder the kids are so anxious and depressed. Repeat after me. You live in the most prosperous community that has ever existed in human history. If you cannot find a way to have a child that you want in this society, then it's not our country that is the problem (and I'm not saying country is perfect). It's you.
For those who don't want kids, great. Don't have them. It is the people who claim they would love kids but just can't because of x,y,z.
“Yikes, some of you have way too little empathy.”
Global warming isn’t going to spare the US, and just because you’re fat and happy, figuratively speaking, doesn’t mean everyone is. Again, many people are essentially barely surviving despite having done everything “right.” My husband and I did everything right and have a comfortable result, but we understand the enormous luck that we got at various points. I understand that our fellow millennials aren’t all equally situated.
Grow a clue, in other words.
Hahaha
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Becsuse it costs $3-4000 per mo for daycare, college tuition now almost runs $100k/year, homes cost almost $500k, a minivan for the kids costs $50k, healthcare sucks and bankrupts people, and oh yeah, even afyer paying all of that you're also still expected to save for retirement and pay off your own student loans.
Having children is the biggest financial disaster of a decision one can make.
+1 I think the economic factors are what prevent people from having more kids. They stop at 1, whereas if they were boomers or older Gen X in the 80s/90s they would have had 2 or 3. Economic factors also means that people get started having kids later because they just aren’t stable enough financially in their mid 20s, which also limits fertility because you just run out of time to expand your family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is intentionally an incredibly hostile place to raise children and then wrings its hands over the unwillingness of people to raise children.
+1
I cannot fathom how people are making ends meet. Childcare is exorbitant and frequently, not especially high quality for the money.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The U.S. is intentionally an incredibly hostile place to raise children and then wrings its hands over the unwillingness of people to raise children.
In countries that bend over backwards to accommodate/subsidize raising children are seeing the same trend. Stop bashing the US.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yikes, most of you have way too much anxiety. No wonder the kids are so anxious and depressed. Repeat after me. You live in the most prosperous community that has ever existed in human history. If you cannot find a way to have a child that you want in this society, then it's not our country that is the problem (and I'm not saying country is perfect). It's you.
For those who don't want kids, great. Don't have them. It is the people who claim they would love kids but just can't because of x,y,z.
“Yikes, some of you have way too little empathy.”
Global warming isn’t going to spare the US, and just because you’re fat and happy, figuratively speaking, doesn’t mean everyone is. Again, many people are essentially barely surviving despite having done everything “right.” My husband and I did everything right and have a comfortable result, but we understand the enormous luck that we got at various points. I understand that our fellow millennials aren’t all equally situated.
Grow a clue, in other words.