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Anonymous wrote:Honestly no. I gave up on that one.

I drew a harder line on tops (I don’t allow anything that shows stomach at all or is low cut etc at this age).

I don’t think there is a right answer (and I don’t judge other parents by what they allow- it is hard) but IME you do have to pick your battles with things like this.

What is wrong with short tops or shorts? Teen boys like that look, and that’s totally normal.

Are we raising a generation of puritans?

Cool. My DD doesn’t need to choose her clothes based on what teen boys like. She is worth more than that.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

Yep meant mid thigh sorry. OP said her daughters wear a size 8 and a size 10/11 hence why I brought it up. They are just shorts. So even though they are made for elementary school kids, not sure ehy they would be so different from the other shorts suggested in this thread. It’s not like anyone would know that OP’s kids were wearing shorts from children’s place or old navy vs primary since none of the brands slsp a label in their clothing. Only brand suggested that would be recognizable is lululemon. If OPs daughters don’t wear a size 8 or size 10/11 I wouldn’t have suggested Primary. Get it?

You’ll understand when your kids are actually tweens and teens. Get it?

DP. No, I don’t. My 12 yo DD is 5’6’’ and would love to wear some of the outfits that her shorter friends can wear.

That wasn’t what I was responding to. I was responding to a mom of a 7 and 9 year old thinking that you can buy tweens and teens clothes from the children’s place and they’ll wear them NBD. I have 12 year old girls and wearing clothes from the children’s place is just something they would refuse to do. They would sit in the closet unworn until I donated them. You can talk until you’re blue in the face about labels blah blah blah, but they are in middle school, not a place known for independent thinking. I’m sure they’ll grow out of it, but for better or worse fitting in is important to the majority of middle schoolers. You have to look a little harder but there are longer shorts options, yes the 2.5 inch hotty hots are front and center but they have 4 inch options as well other shorts that are longer. You don’t have to jump to well I’ll make them wear clothes designed for 8 year olds.

Why don’t you let OP decide whether PP’s suggestion is useful. You seem to have a lot of vent up anger in you.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

Yep meant mid thigh sorry. OP said her daughters wear a size 8 and a size 10/11 hence why I brought it up. They are just shorts. So even though they are made for elementary school kids, not sure ehy they would be so different from the other shorts suggested in this thread. It’s not like anyone would know that OP’s kids were wearing shorts from children’s place or old navy vs primary since none of the brands slsp a label in their clothing. Only brand suggested that would be recognizable is lululemon. If OPs daughters don’t wear a size 8 or size 10/11 I wouldn’t have suggested Primary. Get it?

You’ll understand when your kids are actually tweens and teens. Get it?

DP. No, I don’t. My 12 yo DD is 5’6’’ and would love to wear some of the outfits that her shorter friends can wear.

That wasn’t what I was responding to. I was responding to a mom of a 7 and 9 year old thinking that you can buy tweens and teens clothes from the children’s place and they’ll wear them NBD. I have 12 year old girls and wearing clothes from the children’s place is just something they would refuse to do. They would sit in the closet unworn until I donated them. You can talk until you’re blue in the face about labels blah blah blah, but they are in middle school, not a place known for independent thinking. I’m sure they’ll grow out of it, but for better or worse fitting in is important to the majority of middle schoolers. You have to look a little harder but there are longer shorts options, yes the 2.5 inch hotty hots are front and center but they have 4 inch options as well other shorts that are longer. You don’t have to jump to well I’ll make them wear clothes designed for 8 year olds.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

Yep meant mid thigh sorry. OP said her daughters wear a size 8 and a size 10/11 hence why I brought it up. They are just shorts. So even though they are made for elementary school kids, not sure ehy they would be so different from the other shorts suggested in this thread. It’s not like anyone would know that OP’s kids were wearing shorts from children’s place or old navy vs primary since none of the brands slsp a label in their clothing. Only brand suggested that would be recognizable is lululemon. If OPs daughters don’t wear a size 8 or size 10/11 I wouldn’t have suggested Primary. Get it?

You’ll understand when your kids are actually tweens and teens. Get it?

DP. No, I don’t. My 12 yo DD is 5’6’’ and would love to wear some of the outfits that her shorter friends can wear.

That wasn’t what I was responding to. I was responding to a mom of a 7 and 9 year old thinking that you can buy tweens and teens clothes from the children’s place and they’ll wear them NBD. I have 12 year old girls and wearing clothes from the children’s place is just something they would refuse to do. They would sit in the closet unworn until I donated them. You can talk until you’re blue in the face about labels blah blah blah, but they are in middle school, not a place known for independent thinking. I’m sure they’ll grow out of it, but for better or worse fitting in is important to the majority of middle schoolers. You have to look a little harder but there are longer shorts options, yes the 2.5 inch hotty hots are front and center but they have 4 inch options as well other shorts that are longer. You don’t have to jump to well I’ll make them wear clothes designed for 8 year olds.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

Yep meant mid thigh sorry. OP said her daughters wear a size 8 and a size 10/11 hence why I brought it up. They are just shorts. So even though they are made for elementary school kids, not sure ehy they would be so different from the other shorts suggested in this thread. It’s not like anyone would know that OP’s kids were wearing shorts from children’s place or old navy vs primary since none of the brands slsp a label in their clothing. Only brand suggested that would be recognizable is lululemon. If OPs daughters don’t wear a size 8 or size 10/11 I wouldn’t have suggested Primary. Get it?

You’ll understand when your kids are actually tweens and teens. Get it?

DP. No, I don’t. My 12 yo DD is 5’6’’ and would love to wear some of the outfits that her shorter friends can wear.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

Yep meant mid thigh sorry. OP said her daughters wear a size 8 and a size 10/11 hence why I brought it up. They are just shorts. So even though they are made for elementary school kids, not sure ehy they would be so different from the other shorts suggested in this thread. It’s not like anyone would know that OP’s kids were wearing shorts from children’s place or old navy vs primary since none of the brands slsp a label in their clothing. Only brand suggested that would be recognizable is lululemon. If OPs daughters don’t wear a size 8 or size 10/11 I wouldn’t have suggested Primary. Get it?

You’ll understand when your kids are actually tweens and teens. Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

Yep meant mid thigh sorry. OP said her daughters wear a size 8 and a size 10/11 hence why I brought it up. They are just shorts. So even though they are made for elementary school kids, not sure ehy they would be so different from the other shorts suggested in this thread. It’s not like anyone would know that OP’s kids were wearing shorts from children’s place or old navy vs primary since none of the brands slsp a label in their clothing. Only brand suggested that would be recognizable is lululemon. If OPs daughters don’t wear a size 8 or size 10/11 I wouldn’t have suggested Primary. Get it?

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Ok, what your 7 and 9 year olds wear are really not relevant to what 11 and 13 year olds would wear, since most tween/teens aren’t wearing Primary. I also sincerely hope that you meant mid thigh and not mid calf.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

That would be me! And yes I agree completely. I also think it’s absurd how much criticism people get when they want to be slightly more covered. No need to call people prude just because they want their shorts to be an inch or two longer.

OP I wish you mentioned the fact that your girls are on the smaller side. If that’s the case try Primary. They have shorts in various lengths. I just ordered a couple for my 9 year or and 7 year old so that they can try them out. I’m looking for something mid calf which is what I would be comfortable with my girls wearing at school.

Anonymous wrote:OP here, thanks for everyone's suggestions. My girls are on the shorter side and very thin. The 11 year generally fits into size 8 clothes and the 13 year old into size 10/12. But they have long legs so it seems like the shorts are especially short on them. We did find some jean "midi" style at children's place with adjustable waist that everyone could agree on though..

I especially appreciated whoever posted the thinkorblue link - it really highlighted my feelings on it - I am not a prude (don't need them in a burqa) but I also don't understand why girls clothes (in our supposedly enlightened era) are still dramatically different from boys'. It's only if consumers ask for something different that clothing lines will adapt.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly no. I gave up on that one.

I drew a harder line on tops (I don’t allow anything that shows stomach at all or is low cut etc at this age).

I don’t think there is a right answer (and I don’t judge other parents by what they allow- it is hard) but IME you do have to pick your battles with things like this.

What is wrong with short tops or shorts? Teen boys like that look, and that’s totally normal.

Are we raising a generation of puritans?

Cool. My DD doesn’t need to choose her clothes based on what teen boys like. She is worth more than that.

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No in actuality you are telling her the opposite.

If your daughter likes short shorts then who gives a crap what others think?

You are absurd.

What showing skin is wrong? What do you do at the beach? One piece only with shorts and a t shirt on top?

This whole thread is ridiculous.

Raise confident daughters people not girls who worry about what they wear.

I think a big point is to learn that the beach is different from a school. As long as they're using sunscreen and reapplying regularly, we are very flexible at the beach. But for school sitting in shared plastic desk chairs and the bus, there should not be cheeks hanging out or bare stomachs.

Says who? My teens school has no dress code.

Fact is most girls prefer what’s in style and it has nothing to do with boys.

As long as privates are covered, my teen has autonomy to dress how she likes. And last time I checked the place where the umbilical cord was cut, isn’t a private part. Either are legs or arms.

You parents are so uptight it’s unreal.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure I’m get roasted for this but I bought my 12yo skimmer shorts and midi shorts from Children’s Place and she’s willing to wear them.

She is Greek and has super hairy legs so she actually likes having more of her legs covered to have to shave less, FWIW.

These are the Midi
https://www.childrensplace.com/us/p/Girls-Roll-Cuff-Midi-Jean-Shorts-2-Pack-3038590-338R

These are the skimmer
https://www.childrensplace.com/us/p/Girls-Skimmer-Jean-Shorts-3044737-335S

DP and my 12 year old was asking me about these. She's a fan of the stretch but hates the look of bike shorts, so this is her compromise. I'm the poster above who complained most shorts were too wide.

And to the point of all the PPs saying "raise your daughter not to care what other people think," my 12 year old doesn't mind that these aren't the most fashionable thing. She likes what she likes, and longer shorts is it. Isn't that not caring what other people think?

The problem is the girls with no fashion sense but think they do because they buy Lululemon and wear Uggs. They are most likely to ridicule other girls who are wearing “baby clothing”