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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

I sincerely believe highly palatable processed carbs are to blame.

It's the type of food, but we also do far less physical activity. Even in the 70's kids would walk or ride bikes everywhere, now they get driven in cars, and their free time is on screens.

So, after reading about how there were no obese people in the 1970s, when at my mom's the other day I looked back on my elementary school pictures from the 1970s. There were obese kids then! The 1970s were not a Mecca of lean fitness you know.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

I sincerely believe highly palatable processed carbs are to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

Because they didn’t have access to thousands of calories of highly processed bad for you food. They starved instead. Look it up. Start around 1750. Before that, the human pop growth line is very close to flat.

I’d rather be fat than starving. But it’s a trade off.

Seriously? I'm thinking like 1970s when people looked anorexic. And they had grocery stores back then stocked with soda and chips.

You mean when everyone smoked?

The only thing that has changed is that for the first time in human history, most people have access to food. So everyone is overweight. In the old days, you would have been thin because you’d be starving for most of the year. You are of course welcome to go back to that. Just don’t buy food. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

Because they didn’t have access to thousands of calories of highly processed bad for you food. They starved instead. Look it up. Start around 1750. Before that, the human pop growth line is very close to flat.

I’d rather be fat than starving. But it’s a trade off.

Is PP joking? For most of human history, most people *were* hungry all the time. They just starved to death because there was no food. Have you never read any historical book at all???

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

It could be anything -- hormone disruptors, microplastics, environmental factors, etc. I don't know why I am the way I am. I am the outlier in my family -- the fat one -- and I've always been this way. I didn't grow up eating a bunch of junk food (my mother always cooked from scratch), and I don't eat like that today (I cook from scratch, too). You have this vision that obese people must be shoveling down pies and Snickers, but that is just not the case for me. I don't even like sweets -- I never drink soda or juice, I don't eat candy, and I don't buy fast food. I eat a normal diet, but I'm always hungry, which sometimes leads me to snack on pretzels or something salty at the end of the day, which busts my 1200 calorie diet. The meds help me eat less, plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Well, there are a lot of things some people don't 'want' to pay for. Surgeries and hormones for transgender people, for one.

See how you sound?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

Not sure about near you but kids where I am are super into healthy eating and exercise.

You must be in a wealthy area. We were at a Title 1 school where in the mornings, we'd walk by the busses as they were opening their doors. The smell of greasy fried food would fill the air as these oversized kids rolled off the bus.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

Because they didn’t have access to thousands of calories of highly processed bad for you food. They starved instead. Look it up. Start around 1750. Before that, the human pop growth line is very close to flat.

I’d rather be fat than starving. But it’s a trade off.

Seriously? I'm thinking like 1970s when people looked anorexic. And they had grocery stores back then stocked with soda and chips.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

Because they didn’t have access to thousands of calories of highly processed bad for you food. They starved instead. Look it up. Start around 1750. Before that, the human pop growth line is very close to flat.

I’d rather be fat than starving. But it’s a trade off.

I often wonder if these drugs are like brawndo in idiocracy. I think you’ve just managed to resolve that question with your understanding of mortality over history. Thanks for that. 👏

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

How did the human race make it several millennia of organized living and not manage to have millions of its members some how “hungry all the time”? I wonder how that modern phenomenon came about?

And the answer is not it’s entirely the food systems fault.

Because they didn’t have access to thousands of calories of highly processed bad for you food. They starved instead. Look it up. Start around 1750. Before that, the human pop growth line is very close to flat.

I’d rather be fat than starving. But it’s a trade off.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.