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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.

HR data show men in the exact same position with the same job duties make more money.

You are right more women go to college than men but more men are going to college than before… and college faculty are more likely to be men and student loan debt for women is higher, and men still make more money.

This has made it easier for men to get into certain colleges.

Men are less likely to go to community college than women.

The reason is men have options for high paying jobs that don’t require a degree and women don’t.

None of this is accurate. No surprise PP failed to support any of it.

Anonymous wrote:In my experience, women want to be feminists when it suits them and traditionalists when it doesn't. Similar to men being masculine when it suits them and passive when it doesn't. Humans are just selfish lazy asses.

Can u provide an example ?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.

HR data show men in the exact same position with the same job duties make more money.

You are right more women go to college than men but more men are going to college than before… and college faculty are more likely to be men and student loan debt for women is higher, and men still make more money.

This has made it easier for men to get into certain colleges.

Men are less likely to go to community college than women.

The reason is men have options for high paying jobs that don’t require a degree and women don’t.

In my experience, women want to be feminists when it suits them and traditionalists when it doesn't. Similar to men being masculine when it suits them and passive when it doesn't. Humans are just selfish lazy asses.

Anonymous wrote:If you are a happily married feminist, and your spouse is a man, what is your husband like? Are there traits or green flags that men can exhibit that would suggest that they would romantically pair well with a feminist?

I’ve always found that BDE pairs well with feminists.

Women outnumber men in the U.S. college-educated workforce, now making up 51% of those ages 25 and older, according to Current Population Survey data from the fourth quarter of 2023. Women first surpassed men in the college-educated labor force in the fourth quarter of 2019. They remained more than half of this group through the COVID-19 pandemic, which resulted in a sharp recession and an overall decline in the size of the nation’s labor force.

The gender shift in the college-educated labor force happened about four decades after women overtook men in the number of adults earning a bachelor’s degree each year.

My goal was solely to have a partner.

I can't say that I'm a feminist but I believe in equal rights, equal pay, a woman's right to choose pretty much equal everything. My husband is in a agreement with me and that certainly helps to make a marriage happy. And we both agree that a woman should be feminine and not try to be like a man. Finally, I like to be on top half the time and he is fine with that.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.

You sound very angry. I am simply stating what I see on my experience. I have worked in fortune 100, fortune 500, pharmaceutical, as well as IT companies. Anecdotally, you might think that women are dominating, but it is a fact that white males still dominate. For example, I work in HR and I cannot tell you how many times the top person in my department is a man. Even though HR as a field is dominated by women. Why is the top person is a man? Unless you have the facts you're just using your own bias to make your statement.

Your “experience” is an anecdote, not a statistic.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.

Agreed. Globalization in particular has not been good for working class men with the shift to a service based economy.

In addition, now that women have the ability earn income, they are not required to mate with men for survival. This means there will be more young men who find it harder attract wives and sexual partners. We know that these men are always a destabilizing force in society, whether through crime and violence or political revolution.

I don’t know the answer but “Men’s Studies” is an important topic for research and policy.

This is the crux of the matter- women use their earning power to avoid angry, controlling men. Poor women, especially mothers and WOC, have fewer options.

Anonymous wrote:If you are a happily married feminist, and your spouse is a man, what is your husband like? Are there traits or green flags that men can exhibit that would suggest that they would romantically pair well with a feminist?

My husband and I are both feminists in that we both believe in equality and advocate for women's rights, we vote for leaders who do the same, we both see that men have historically been prioritized over women and that women have been treated unjustly throughout history, we talk w/ our kids about gender stereotypes and sexism and strongly refute any sexist/misogynistic talk that comes up from the kids or in movies/tv/books/the news.

On paper, we have a more traditional marriage: he works and I am a stay at home mom. This was entirely my choice (my husband would have supported me either way, whether I chose to be a SAHM or chose to keep working after we had kids) and it works for us. I genuinely wanted to be a stay at home parent. I love being home w/ my kids. I even enjoy managing the household tasks. Yes, I do the majority of the cooking, cleaning, chores, errands, and almost all kid-related planning and managing (signing kids up for activities, taking them to the Dr., planning play dates w/ their friends, buying them clothes, etc.) but my husband does a lot with the kids when he's not at work. he's a very involved dad. I'd say he is the primary parent in the evenings and on weekends and holidays. He comes home and totally takes over whatever is going on w/ the kids (helping w/ homework, playing with them, reading to them, taking them to activities, taking them to bed, giving them baths, etc.).

How is he as a partner? Kind, loving, sensitive, thoughtful, generous, considerate. He is the best partner I could ever hope for. He is a great listener, he cares deeply about me, he values me and respects me, he is a wonderful lover.

I would definitely call my husband a feminist. I wouldn't have married him if I didnt honestly. I'm not interested in red pill, MRA incel types.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.

Agreed. Globalization in particular has not been good for working class men with the shift to a service based economy.

In addition, now that women have the ability earn income, they are not required to mate with men for survival. This means there will be more young men who find it harder attract wives and sexual partners. We know that these men are always a destabilizing force in society, whether through crime and violence or political revolution.

I don’t know the answer but “Men’s Studies” is an important topic for research and policy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.

You sound very angry. I am simply stating what I see on my experience. I have worked in fortune 100, fortune 500, pharmaceutical, as well as IT companies. Anecdotally, you might think that women are dominating, but it is a fact that white males still dominate. For example, I work in HR and I cannot tell you how many times the top person in my department is a man. Even though HR as a field is dominated by women. Why is the top person is a man? Unless you have the facts you're just using your own bias to make your statement.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange topic since women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As I said above;

feminism was never about equality. it has always been about supremacy.

I hope you're being a sarcastic. It's always been about equality. Despite all of the laws, women still earn less than men when they're doing the same job. I'm not talking about a minimum wage job where everybody makes the same amount of money. I'm talking about professional jobs. I work in HR and see payroll and pay rates of everybody and I've done this for several companies. There is definitely a pattern. Of course, there are woman who make a lot more then their male peers, but it's not a pattern.

Also, we still have cases where doctors don't perform tubal ligations to permanently prevent pregnancy on women without permission of the husband. My husband didn't have to get my permission when he got vasectomy. Feminism is about equal pay and equal rights.

What out-dated BS is this?

The fact is in 2024: women over the last 20+ years are doing much better than men economically, financially, educationally, and socially. I think we should be more concerned with how men are doing than women for now.

As for the high-level people you claim to have encountered in the past (possibly distant past) through HR, be honest: how many of the women took a few years off to raise children, or went part-time when their children were young? If you factored that issue in, you would certainly have to agree women are doing better than men today.

And considering how few boys enter university (fewer still ever graduate) compared to women, the employment and career prospects for boys are very dim, while women will continue to own a greater and greater percentage of the workplace.