Anonymous wrote:Is this true? I still feel pretty hurt by some people in my life. I’m moving on and I’ve heard people say that bad people get theirs in the end, karma, whatever.

I just thought of this after reading the P Diddy post - it took 20 years for his downfall.

Please share stories of bad people who eventually met their fate, without you causing it and having moved on.

Sometimes. It appears to be true for Trump, at least in New York State civil trials and I fervently hope and pray he gets all that he so richly deserves in the criminal trial scheduled to begin on March 25, 2024.

Anonymous wrote:I don't see any harm in believing in karma if it provides you comfort. Same as religion.
But the thing is that if/when a "bad" person "gets theirs", they never see it as punishment for their bad behavior. In part because most of the time, they don't see themselves as bad people. So really, this kind of karma exists for those who were wronged by the bad person. Putin, for example, could die a slow and painful death while millions of people gloat over it, but he'll never see himself as deserving of it, and when he's dead, is anyone really going to feel like he got what he deserved? He's already an old man.

+1 We all rationalize our behavior.

I don't see any harm in believing in karma if it provides you comfort. Same as religion.
But the thing is that if/when a "bad" person "gets theirs", they never see it as punishment for their bad behavior. In part because most of the time, they don't see themselves as bad people. So really, this kind of karma exists for those who were wronged by the bad person. Putin, for example, could die a slow and painful death while millions of people gloat over it, but he'll never see himself as deserving of it, and when he's dead, is anyone really going to feel like he got what he deserved? He's already an old man.

Anonymous wrote:It evens out on a cosmic time scale. We’re just souls in these temporary bodies. It may not go around in this body’s life.

+1
I don't think one can believe in karma without believing that our souls never die.
I can't believe in karma based on what I see in my life, through my eyes. But if I imagine that our souls take on different forms or live in different bodies through time, then yes, I do.

OP here just checking back on this post.

Wow people really read a lot into my original question. I don't really understand the naive accusations. How do you call someone who has lived through abuse naive, to me it's the opposite, they've seen the harshness of life...

I guess I was more curious if people with bad character it eventually catches up to them in some way. I'm not talking about wishing cancer on someone or something like that, if you reread my original post it's about moving on and letting go and then finding out later something did catch up with someone...

A former sister-in-law alienated my brother from his family and behaved atrociously when he died from lung cancer. We were told he had a family of choice and cared nothing for his family of origin. I did something a few days after his funeral that used her real name rather than the name she had changed before marrying my brother. She was not well liked and the Googlers and gossipers found out many unsavory things about her past. She had to leave town.

Anonymous wrote:I have neighbors who are some of the most terrible people I've ever met in my life. Narcissistic, pathological liars who commit outright fraud in order to get ahead at all costs. They will destroy relationships, lie, cheat and steal. Their actions are slowly catching up with them, and I do believe that they will reap what they've sown.

I know your shitty neighbors. I am surprised they are not in prison yet because they believe they are above the law!

First that's not how karma works.

And second, no, bad people don't get theirs eventually - at least not in this life. I could post an endless list of bad people whose lives were long and comfortable whilst they were responsible for the suffering and deaths of countless others.

Henry Kissinger springs to mind as a very recent example.

Folks are lucky if they get a resolution involving the downfall of someone who once hurt them badly, but that isn't the case for most and one of the most important lessons to learn in life is to LET GO of that desire to see some kind of cosmic justice. The only cosmic justice that can be counted on is picking oneself up, dusting oneself off, and living well just for the sake of it.

OP. Believing bad people will see justice or “get theirs” is naive. It’s also insensitive to the decent people - and children - who’ve had terrible things happen to them.
But you want to feel better, and you think trying to convince yourself that something bad will happen to them will make you feel better. This is not the way.
The best revenge and best justice is living well and no longer caring. That is the only way.

Anonymous wrote:Disagree. My mom always says they get it in the end. Yet in my career have seen absolute smug, arrogant, a'holes get promoted and make a ton of money.

+1

Look at MAGA fraudster, convicted assaulter orange man!

I don't believe in karma but I believe evil forces win out of bad people eventually.

I haven’t read the whole thread, I am not a bad person and I am running the gauntlet with bad things happening. So no, I don’t think karma exists.

Disagree. My mom always says they get it in the end. Yet in my career have seen absolute smug, arrogant, a'holes get promoted and make a ton of money.

Anonymous wrote:An ex boss bullied me out of my dream job in the cruelest way imaginable.

1 year later: Me, still knocked down. Her, fine.
2 years later: Me, still clawing back lost ground. Her, forced out of a career she loved.
2.5 years later: Me, attempting a comeback. Her, landed a nice job at a prominent tech company, probably well paid.
3 years later: Me, in a perfect job, killing it, loving life. Her, cut from the tech company during a mass layoff. Now a "consultant" with no clients listed.

It took some time, there were ups and downs, but karma did eventually visit!

You may be due for an anvil falling on your head or a pesky bout of cancer as result of your smug superiority in the misfortune of others.

Anonymous wrote:I’m always surprised by adults that believe in karma. Not because of bad people getting their comeuppance or not, but because of really good, decent people who get put through the wringer for no discernible reason. We have a family friend whose daughter and husband are sick with extremely serious illnesses. The daughter had a rare condition and will die eventually and her husband may die too. They are both decent people who did everything “right” in life.

I don't think the OP was looking for evidence that bad people suffer and good people are safe - it's more about people who treat others badly eventually having that come around to bite them in the *ss. Sadly, that doesn't always happen either, and plenty of nice people are victimized by bullies and never get any justice. But once in a while people like that get a little too arrogant and screw over the wrong person and do finally get what they deserve.