Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 20:24     Subject: Re:Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
This story hurts so much to hear about.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 20:02     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
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Anonymous wrote:A young family member of mine died in a sandbox this way. It was heartbreaking.

Deep snow is just as dangerous - teach your kids never to dig tunnels in it.


We dug tunnels in the snow and lined them with ice. No one ever told us it was dangerous.


You needed to be told??


Do you not… tell your kids things? Were your children born knowing ALL safety hazards?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 19:46     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A young family member of mine died in a sandbox this way. It was heartbreaking.

Deep snow is just as dangerous - teach your kids never to dig tunnels in it.


We dug tunnels in the snow and lined them with ice. No one ever told us it was dangerous.


You needed to be told??
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 18:46     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:I read a witness account stating he saw an adult man (not the kids' father) digging the hole before the kids started playing in it.


There are beach rules to fill in the holes when you leave. This man is at fault.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 18:33     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:A young family member of mine died in a sandbox this way. It was heartbreaking.

Deep snow is just as dangerous - teach your kids never to dig tunnels in it.


We dug tunnels in the snow and lined them with ice. No one ever told us it was dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 17:59     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:A young family member of mine died in a sandbox this way. It was heartbreaking.

Deep snow is just as dangerous - teach your kids never to dig tunnels in it.


OMG that's terrible. How deep was this sandbox?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 17:58     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
A young family member of mine died in a sandbox this way. It was heartbreaking.

Deep snow is just as dangerous - teach your kids never to dig tunnels in it.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 17:18     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
I started beach lifeguarding in the late 1990s in OCMD and our biggest concerns were always rip currents, holes, and flying umbrellas. Nothing has changed since then. Way too many drownings, sand entrapments and people impaled by flying umbrellas.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 16:47     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else thinking back to the times when your kids were small and you let them dig large holes? I have pictures of 2 of my kids (the 2 boys) in a hole that could have killed them if it had collapsed and the thought makes me sick to my stomach.


Yes! My kids are grown ups now and I definitely remember them playing in sand holes dug up by other kids. It was always on beaches with lifeguards and no one told us to get out because of the hazard.


There are signs on most lifeguard stands these days that have a rule about holes.


That area of the beach had no lifeguard tower.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 16:46     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else thinking back to the times when your kids were small and you let them dig large holes? I have pictures of 2 of my kids (the 2 boys) in a hole that could have killed them if it had collapsed and the thought makes me sick to my stomach.


Yes! My kids are grown ups now and I definitely remember them playing in sand holes dug up by other kids. It was always on beaches with lifeguards and no one told us to get out because of the hazard.


There are signs on most lifeguard stands these days that have a rule about holes.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 16:45     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else thinking back to the times when your kids were small and you let them dig large holes? I have pictures of 2 of my kids (the 2 boys) in a hole that could have killed them if it had collapsed and the thought makes me sick to my stomach.


Yes! My kids are grown ups now and I definitely remember them playing in sand holes dug up by other kids. It was always on beaches with lifeguards and no one told us to get out because of the hazard.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 16:35     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else thinking back to the times when your kids were small and you let them dig large holes? I have pictures of 2 of my kids (the 2 boys) in a hole that could have killed them if it had collapsed and the thought makes me sick to my stomach.


No b/c I knew better! Good lord.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 16:09     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
Is anyone else thinking back to the times when your kids were small and you let them dig large holes? I have pictures of 2 of my kids (the 2 boys) in a hole that could have killed them if it had collapsed and the thought makes me sick to my stomach.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 16:01     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
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Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh - this is my worst nightmare. My kids LOVE to bury themselves and inanimate objects at the beach. They've never tried to bury their faces or go super deep as far as I know, but this has spooked me into being super vigilant about this now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/us/sandhole-florida-death-beach.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR1XSSlaCZTZKEOPMHVIFYlS4jtRf9TYSyVzkXNBVfDrJkNuX5w5XG2z73Y


Where were the parents who should have been watching what they were doing? I didn't know about the instability of beach sand but I definitely know that you do not stand by while your children are attempting to bury themselves!

It was a freak accident.


No, this is a known, repeatable hazard.


For many of us it's not a commonly known hazard. Please stop.



+1 I’m sure if these parents knew their children were digging themselves an actual GRAVE they would have stopped them.


It's common freaking sense. Do you build a house on sand? No. Are you allowed to walk on dunes? No. It doesn't take a genius to understand why.


You're not helping. That's not why you're not allowed to walk on dunes.


Yes, that IS actually the reason you aren't allowed to walk on sand dunes - because BEACH SAND IS INHERENTLY UNSTABLE and walking on dunes causes collapse which hastens erosion of the beach and destroys habitat for small shore creatures.

Some very serious ignorance on this thread. NO, a hole in the sand collapsing and suffocating the people digging it is NOT a freak accident - it's a known hazard and happens far too frequently on account of the widespread lack of common sense among people these days.


3 people die from such sand collapse accidents every year. I would not say it is something that most people are aware of, if only because it doesn't happen often at all. Silo deaths for example are much much more common and I am still not sure most people know about them.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 15:49     Subject: Young girl dies in FL buried under sand
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Anonymous wrote:Oh my gosh - this is my worst nightmare. My kids LOVE to bury themselves and inanimate objects at the beach. They've never tried to bury their faces or go super deep as far as I know, but this has spooked me into being super vigilant about this now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/us/sandhole-florida-death-beach.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR1XSSlaCZTZKEOPMHVIFYlS4jtRf9TYSyVzkXNBVfDrJkNuX5w5XG2z73Y


Where were the parents who should have been watching what they were doing? I didn't know about the instability of beach sand but I definitely know that you do not stand by while your children are attempting to bury themselves!

It was a freak accident.


No, this is a known, repeatable hazard.


For many of us it's not a commonly known hazard. Please stop.


+1 I’m sure if these parents knew their children were digging themselves an actual GRAVE they would have stopped them.


It's common freaking sense. Do you build a house on sand? No. Are you allowed to walk on dunes? No. It doesn't take a genius to understand why.


You're not helping. That's not why you're not allowed to walk on dunes.


Yes, that IS actually the reason you aren't allowed to walk on sand dunes - because BEACH SAND IS INHERENTLY UNSTABLE and walking on dunes causes collapse which hastens erosion of the beach and destroys habitat for small shore creatures.

Some very serious ignorance on this thread. NO, a hole in the sand collapsing and suffocating the people digging it is NOT a freak accident - it's a known hazard and happens far too frequently on account of the widespread lack of common sense among people these days.