Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: everyone should remember you are an at-will employee who can be let go at any time for practically any reason.
Freaking out on strangers from HR won’t change the outcome.
Re: taping it - many jurisdictions have laws against taping people without consent.
A federal wiretapping charge, that will help make her marketable.
Most states only require one-party consent. I'm not sure where she lives, but this was probably a legal recording.
She's in Georgia, a one-party state. The recording was fine.
But I'm a Boomer/Gen Xer who doesn't liiiiiiiike it!!!!! I want her life to be even more ruined by a federal wiretapping charge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous wrote:So a couple of things.
One, I'm not sure why this needs to be generational warfare episode 6,323,534,231. This could be time for nuanced discussion about what companies owe us during firing/lay-offs but instead it's turned into "Hurdur zoomers suck Gen X great" when based on her LinkedIn, I don't even believe her to be a Zoomer. She looks like she's the last year of millennials.
Two, I totally get where she's coming from. Having been fired for "poor performance" six months in, after not a word of anything but "you're doing great," the entire time, yeah, I was pissed. Even when I filed for UI and the company said it was poor performance, I made a point to say "I was surprised they indicated poor performance, as this was not mentioned during my six month review a few weeks prior to being fired." I didn't fight back when being fired though because I could tell it was not a good fit and was already looking/interviewing elsewhere though. (And no, I did not think it was a bad fit because I was not able to meet expectations, I thought it was a bad fit because they were disorganized and told me they could no longer afford to reimburse me for meals on work-related trips.)
Three, I wouldn't have recorded this because at the end of the day, the decision was made and the paperwork was already signed but whoever said above that they hope she gets busted for federal wiretapping charges...you're dumber than the two HR drones handling this call. Calm down, Gladys.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Zoomers are the whiniest excuse makers I’ve ever experienced. Nothing is ever their fault; it’s always something else: ADHD, climate change, anxiety, my cat died, etc. Take your pick.
Wow… this post reflects a level of confusion that I’d never want on my team. Conflating ADHD (a medical condition measurable by imaging) with anxiety (a mental health issue that affects like 40% of Americans and negatively impacts productivity) with climate change (an ongoing catastrophe that is currently causing mega extinction and which corporate risk managers are neck deep in actively dealing with) seems shockingly muddleheaded.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Geez, why do people do this? If you google her name, you now get like 1000 articles written about this video. Who's going to hire her when they see all of that?
Celebrity. Marry rich. Solid plan for a cute southern girl.
Everyone! She is a celeb
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pro tip: everyone should remember you are an at-will employee who can be let go at any time for practically any reason.
Freaking out on strangers from HR won’t change the outcome.
Re: taping it - many jurisdictions have laws against taping people without consent.
A federal wiretapping charge, that will help make her marketable.
Most states only require one-party consent. I'm not sure where she lives, but this was probably a legal recording.
She's in Georgia, a one-party state. The recording was fine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!
Yes and I will add Kudos to the HR duo who were on the call as well.
As Cloudfare CEO acknowledged, the process maybe wasn’t the best way to do this, but I thought the two people assigned to handle the call and give her the news remained professional and expressed an appropriate amount of empathy without losing their cool. They didn’t have answers, and acknowledged her feelings about what was happening. I’d give them an A+ for executing the crappy task they were given without escalating.
+1. I watched this waiting to see the company eff up royally and… they just didn’t. Brittney comes off looking silly. Also she shouldn’t have said “bullsh*t” - it made her look juvenile. The HR people were top notch here. I’d hire them, not her, for sure.
Those people did fine given what they had to work with but Brittany was right that it’s very bad practice to give her no adverse feedback and not have her manager on the call and not be able to articulate anything about her performance. It’s within the company’s rights but it’s also crappy.
If it's at will, don't give any feedback on performance because that could open the company to liability. Just, "I'm sorry but I have some bad news, we have to let you go. byeeeeee!"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!
Yes and I will add Kudos to the HR duo who were on the call as well.
As Cloudfare CEO acknowledged, the process maybe wasn’t the best way to do this, but I thought the two people assigned to handle the call and give her the news remained professional and expressed an appropriate amount of empathy without losing their cool. They didn’t have answers, and acknowledged her feelings about what was happening. I’d give them an A+ for executing the crappy task they were given without escalating.
+1. I watched this waiting to see the company eff up royally and… they just didn’t. Brittney comes off looking silly. Also she shouldn’t have said “bullsh*t” - it made her look juvenile. The HR people were top notch here. I’d hire them, not her, for sure.
Those people did fine given what they had to work with but Brittany was right that it’s very bad practice to give her no adverse feedback and not have her manager on the call and not be able to articulate anything about her performance. It’s within the company’s rights but it’s also crappy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!
Yes and I will add Kudos to the HR duo who were on the call as well.
As Cloudfare CEO acknowledged, the process maybe wasn’t the best way to do this, but I thought the two people assigned to handle the call and give her the news remained professional and expressed an appropriate amount of empathy without losing their cool. They didn’t have answers, and acknowledged her feelings about what was happening. I’d give them an A+ for executing the crappy task they were given without escalating.
+1. I watched this waiting to see the company eff up royally and… they just didn’t. Brittney comes off looking silly. Also she shouldn’t have said “bullsh*t” - it made her look juvenile. The HR people were top notch here. I’d hire them, not her, for sure.
Those people did fine given what they had to work with but Brittany was right that it’s very bad practice to give her no adverse feedback and not have her manager on the call and not be able to articulate anything about her performance. It’s within the company’s rights but it’s also crappy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!
Yes and I will add Kudos to the HR duo who were on the call as well.
As Cloudfare CEO acknowledged, the process maybe wasn’t the best way to do this, but I thought the two people assigned to handle the call and give her the news remained professional and expressed an appropriate amount of empathy without losing their cool. They didn’t have answers, and acknowledged her feelings about what was happening. I’d give them an A+ for executing the crappy task they were given without escalating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course the company can fire her but at least they could admit it's because they over-hired not because she was deficient. There's no suggestion that anyone ever gave her any negative feedback and it's pretty wasteful from the company's perspective to hire someone for four months.
Agree with this and the poster above who mentioned the deranged speaking and pitiful training for the RIF "consultants". Offensive all around. Terrible look for this company and not Brittany. Good for her- I do hope she gets a bit of fame.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!
Yes and I will add Kudos to the HR duo who were on the call as well.
As Cloudfare CEO acknowledged, the process maybe wasn’t the best way to do this, but I thought the two people assigned to handle the call and give her the news remained professional and expressed an appropriate amount of empathy without losing their cool. They didn’t have answers, and acknowledged her feelings about what was happening. I’d give them an A+ for executing the crappy task they were given without escalating.
+1. I watched this waiting to see the company eff up royally and… they just didn’t. Brittney comes off looking silly. Also she shouldn’t have said “bullsh*t” - it made her look juvenile. The HR people were top notch here. I’d hire them, not her, for sure.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!
Yes and I will add Kudos to the HR duo who were on the call as well.
As Cloudfare CEO acknowledged, the process maybe wasn’t the best way to do this, but I thought the two people assigned to handle the call and give her the news remained professional and expressed an appropriate amount of empathy without losing their cool. They didn’t have answers, and acknowledged her feelings about what was happening. I’d give them an A+ for executing the crappy task they were given without escalating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Before starting my own company, I was a consistently top ranked sales person. I out performed established people with 0 ramp time. That's a ringer. This girl? Not a ringer. If this was her first sales job that's too bad, not a company to learn from.
Also, I was let go in multiple lay offs even at the very top. No one is immune. I have no idea why she would feel targeted. #1 and #100 are all let go.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here's the CEO's response:
https://twitter.com/eastdakota/status/1745697840180191501
Perfect response, very well stated. Kudos to their PR team!