Anonymous
11/18/2023 17:36
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The schools that are really impressive are the tiny schools that no one has ever heard of that occasionally produce a Rhodes, Watson, Marshall etc.
The big schools often have a whole team of adult professionals who prep the kids and it is almost a team effort. My kid won a prestigious fellowship and four different individuals read his application and helped him prep for the interview etc. And at the military academies they often identify candidates in sophomore year and provide opportunities to improve the application in summers etc. Theynprovide targeted research opportunities etc.
I have also sat on prize committees and you can tell whose application has been massaged. Kids have a better sense of what they want to study, are better prepared to undertake that study, are applying to the right program etc.
There is a reason the university folks say “WE got six prestigious fellowships last year.”
I thought it was interesting that so many of the Rhodes were Indian-Americans. Also interesting that they have diverse interests. No real pattern like “everybody just wants to study AI”.
So many fallacious points in this post. This is what reasoning from anecdote produces. You can make assumptions all you want, but when you are on the other side of the table if you are honest you know very little about the massaging or nature of prep for 90% of candidates. Assume all you want.
Also, trying to talk about W&L and Davidson as if they are small and no one has heard of them instead of the fact that they are rather prestigious, selective, and small liberal arts colleges is laughable. Is it really more impressive? What if you also knew how much more effort goes into this from W&L than UVA? I heard the guy who runs the UVA office doesn’t even care about the Rhodes.
Why can’t people just say, ‘hey, cool.’
UVA's Director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes. My son competed for it. https://citizenscholars.virginia.edu/. And the Marshall, Fulbright and all of the others. You "hear" something that sounds off and then repeat it here? not cool.
You just said he cared for your son…not the Rhodes
I said, "Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes." YOu couldn't even provide his name.
Ok. Name dropping does not mean you know him. I would put big money on *Andrus Ashoo* caring deeply for your son and not for the Rhodes.
And it would be like taking candy from a baby.
This whole website is like LemonLymon.
Anonymous
11/18/2023 17:07
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The schools that are really impressive are the tiny schools that no one has ever heard of that occasionally produce a Rhodes, Watson, Marshall etc.
The big schools often have a whole team of adult professionals who prep the kids and it is almost a team effort. My kid won a prestigious fellowship and four different individuals read his application and helped him prep for the interview etc. And at the military academies they often identify candidates in sophomore year and provide opportunities to improve the application in summers etc. Theynprovide targeted research opportunities etc.
I have also sat on prize committees and you can tell whose application has been massaged. Kids have a better sense of what they want to study, are better prepared to undertake that study, are applying to the right program etc.
There is a reason the university folks say “WE got six prestigious fellowships last year.”
I thought it was interesting that so many of the Rhodes were Indian-Americans. Also interesting that they have diverse interests. No real pattern like “everybody just wants to study AI”.
So many fallacious points in this post. This is what reasoning from anecdote produces. You can make assumptions all you want, but when you are on the other side of the table if you are honest you know very little about the massaging or nature of prep for 90% of candidates. Assume all you want.
Also, trying to talk about W&L and Davidson as if they are small and no one has heard of them instead of the fact that they are rather prestigious, selective, and small liberal arts colleges is laughable. Is it really more impressive? What if you also knew how much more effort goes into this from W&L than UVA? I heard the guy who runs the UVA office doesn’t even care about the Rhodes.
Why can’t people just say, ‘hey, cool.’
UVA's Director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes. My son competed for it. https://citizenscholars.virginia.edu/. And the Marshall, Fulbright and all of the others. You "hear" something that sounds off and then repeat it here? not cool.
You just said he cared for your son…not the Rhodes
I said, "Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes." YOu couldn't even provide his name.
Anonymous
11/18/2023 09:27
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The schools that are really impressive are the tiny schools that no one has ever heard of that occasionally produce a Rhodes, Watson, Marshall etc.
The big schools often have a whole team of adult professionals who prep the kids and it is almost a team effort. My kid won a prestigious fellowship and four different individuals read his application and helped him prep for the interview etc. And at the military academies they often identify candidates in sophomore year and provide opportunities to improve the application in summers etc. Theynprovide targeted research opportunities etc.
I have also sat on prize committees and you can tell whose application has been massaged. Kids have a better sense of what they want to study, are better prepared to undertake that study, are applying to the right program etc.
There is a reason the university folks say “WE got six prestigious fellowships last year.”
I thought it was interesting that so many of the Rhodes were Indian-Americans. Also interesting that they have diverse interests. No real pattern like “everybody just wants to study AI”.
So many fallacious points in this post. This is what reasoning from anecdote produces. You can make assumptions all you want, but when you are on the other side of the table if you are honest you know very little about the massaging or nature of prep for 90% of candidates. Assume all you want.
Also, trying to talk about W&L and Davidson as if they are small and no one has heard of them instead of the fact that they are rather prestigious, selective, and small liberal arts colleges is laughable. Is it really more impressive? What if you also knew how much more effort goes into this from W&L than UVA? I heard the guy who runs the UVA office doesn’t even care about the Rhodes.
Why can’t people just say, ‘hey, cool.’
UVA's Director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes. My son competed for it. https://citizenscholars.virginia.edu/. And the Marshall, Fulbright and all of the others. You "hear" something that sounds off and then repeat it here? not cool.
Of course UVA deeply cares about getting Rhodes Scholarships.
Anonymous
11/18/2023 09:19
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The schools that are really impressive are the tiny schools that no one has ever heard of that occasionally produce a Rhodes, Watson, Marshall etc.
The big schools often have a whole team of adult professionals who prep the kids and it is almost a team effort. My kid won a prestigious fellowship and four different individuals read his application and helped him prep for the interview etc. And at the military academies they often identify candidates in sophomore year and provide opportunities to improve the application in summers etc. Theynprovide targeted research opportunities etc.
I have also sat on prize committees and you can tell whose application has been massaged. Kids have a better sense of what they want to study, are better prepared to undertake that study, are applying to the right program etc.
There is a reason the university folks say “WE got six prestigious fellowships last year.”
I thought it was interesting that so many of the Rhodes were Indian-Americans. Also interesting that they have diverse interests. No real pattern like “everybody just wants to study AI”.
So many fallacious points in this post. This is what reasoning from anecdote produces. You can make assumptions all you want, but when you are on the other side of the table if you are honest you know very little about the massaging or nature of prep for 90% of candidates. Assume all you want.
Also, trying to talk about W&L and Davidson as if they are small and no one has heard of them instead of the fact that they are rather prestigious, selective, and small liberal arts colleges is laughable. Is it really more impressive? What if you also knew how much more effort goes into this from W&L than UVA? I heard the guy who runs the UVA office doesn’t even care about the Rhodes.
Why can’t people just say, ‘hey, cool.’
UVA's Director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes. My son competed for it. https://citizenscholars.virginia.edu/. And the Marshall, Fulbright and all of the others. You "hear" something that sounds off and then repeat it here? not cool.
You just said he cared for your son…not the Rhodes
Anonymous
11/17/2023 21:36
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The schools that are really impressive are the tiny schools that no one has ever heard of that occasionally produce a Rhodes, Watson, Marshall etc.
The big schools often have a whole team of adult professionals who prep the kids and it is almost a team effort. My kid won a prestigious fellowship and four different individuals read his application and helped him prep for the interview etc. And at the military academies they often identify candidates in sophomore year and provide opportunities to improve the application in summers etc. Theynprovide targeted research opportunities etc.
I have also sat on prize committees and you can tell whose application has been massaged. Kids have a better sense of what they want to study, are better prepared to undertake that study, are applying to the right program etc.
There is a reason the university folks say “WE got six prestigious fellowships last year.”
I thought it was interesting that so many of the Rhodes were Indian-Americans. Also interesting that they have diverse interests. No real pattern like “everybody just wants to study AI”.
So many fallacious points in this post. This is what reasoning from anecdote produces. You can make assumptions all you want, but when you are on the other side of the table if you are honest you know very little about the massaging or nature of prep for 90% of candidates. Assume all you want.
Also, trying to talk about W&L and Davidson as if they are small and no one has heard of them instead of the fact that they are rather prestigious, selective, and small liberal arts colleges is laughable. Is it really more impressive? What if you also knew how much more effort goes into this from W&L than UVA? I heard the guy who runs the UVA office doesn’t even care about the Rhodes.
Why can’t people just say, ‘hey, cool.’
UVA's Director of the Office of Citizen Scholar Development, Andrus Ashoo, cares deeply about the Rhodes. My son competed for it. https://citizenscholars.virginia.edu/. And the Marshall, Fulbright and all of the others. You "hear" something that sounds off and then repeat it here? not cool.
Anonymous
11/17/2023 18:27
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
“Fourth, and most important, this means nothing.”
Pretty much sums up this whole conversation.
Pretty much sums up this whole conversation.
Anonymous
11/17/2023 17:16
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:The schools that are really impressive are the tiny schools that no one has ever heard of that occasionally produce a Rhodes, Watson, Marshall etc.
The big schools often have a whole team of adult professionals who prep the kids and it is almost a team effort. My kid won a prestigious fellowship and four different individuals read his application and helped him prep for the interview etc. And at the military academies they often identify candidates in sophomore year and provide opportunities to improve the application in summers etc. Theynprovide targeted research opportunities etc.
I have also sat on prize committees and you can tell whose application has been massaged. Kids have a better sense of what they want to study, are better prepared to undertake that study, are applying to the right program etc.
There is a reason the university folks say “WE got six prestigious fellowships last year.”
I thought it was interesting that so many of the Rhodes were Indian-Americans. Also interesting that they have diverse interests. No real pattern like “everybody just wants to study AI”.
So many fallacious points in this post. This is what reasoning from anecdote produces. You can make assumptions all you want, but when you are on the other side of the table if you are honest you know very little about the massaging or nature of prep for 90% of candidates. Assume all you want.
Also, trying to talk about W&L and Davidson as if they are small and no one has heard of them instead of the fact that they are rather prestigious, selective, and small liberal arts colleges is laughable. Is it really more impressive? What if you also knew how much more effort goes into this from W&L than UVA? I heard the guy who runs the UVA office doesn’t even care about the Rhodes.
Why can’t people just say, ‘hey, cool.’
Anonymous
11/17/2023 16:08
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stanford and Duke had 0 this year, just further confirms UVA>Stanford and Duke. And you best believe Stanford and Duke were trying just as hard to get Rhodes Scholars.
LOL. It was just 1 year, not really a big sample size. Stanford and Duke do more than fine for prestigious postgrad scholarships: https://www.k-state.edu/about/scholars/NationalScholarsRankingChart2017%20allschools.pdf
From 1986-2017:
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Stanford
4. Princeton
5. Duke
6. MIT
...
??? UVA (not listed in top 10)
UVA is no 8 in the US, the top public producer after West Point. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html.
It looks like PP listed the most recent years, it says 1986-2017. That is probably more relevant than whoever was getting Rhodes scholars in the early 1900s.
Well that's distorted logic. The fact that UVA wins year after year and has come UP since 2017 argues the opposite. It's no. 8 behind the best privates (all old) and west point. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/universities-by-number-of-rhodes-scholars.html
UVA hasn’t come up in Rhodes more than other similar schools. However many Rhodes they produced from 1900-1950 is pretty irrelevant to today
Y'all waste too much time on here. First, you should be more discerning about how you understand the numbers and what different schools are doing when they construct lists. Kansas State cherry-picked to make them stand out - all universities do this. Second, you can make assumptions, but the evidence is in the details. UVA actually has more Rhodes Scholars than any public university that is not a service academy in history...and in the last ten years...and in the last five years. Third, the Rhodes Scholarship is a regional competition. Most colleges and universities are only ever competing for 2-8 of the 32 American Rhodes Scholarships available. UVA is almost 70% in-state...a school like Harvard competes in every district every year. Fourth, and most important, this means nothing. UVA alums, be proud, but don't be prideful....it says nothing about your school. Why don't you go find out which office supports the students applying for Rhodes and ask them for more detail. I bet they would have interesting things to say.
Anonymous
11/16/2023 09:23
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:The anti-UVa troll whose signature cry for help is to pretend to be a UVa booster so he can then attack his fake persona has started to actually boost UVa with his feigned boosting. Who would have known about the Rhodes Scholar announcement without the troll thread that he created? Not me . . .
Anonymous
11/16/2023 08:38
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty impressive.
UVA is so underrated—truly the best public Ivy.
Very true, so long as you don't step outside VA.
But no 24 nationally according to USNWR and no 5 best public university in the nation. But go ahead and be bitter.
Agreed, there's too many extremes on here. No, UVA isn't as good as Stanford or Duke, but it also isn't unknown outside Virginia. It's a top public school and does exactly what it needs to for Virginians!
Anonymous
11/15/2023 20:36
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty impressive.
UVA is so underrated—truly the best public Ivy.
Very true, so long as you don't step outside VA.
But no 24 nationally according to USNWR and no 5 best public university in the nation. But go ahead and be bitter.
Anonymous
11/15/2023 20:34
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pretty impressive.
UVA is so underrated—truly the best public Ivy.
Very true, so long as you don't step outside VA.
Anonymous
11/15/2023 20:32
Subject: UVA has ANOTHER Rhodes Scholar
Anonymous wrote:At UVA, it must get tiring to keep winning all the time.
Not in football.