Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:42     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Men are optimists. They patiently tolerate all the b.s. and hypocrisy ladled out by the women in their lives hoping that one day the woman will suddenly become enlightened. Even though the odds strongly disfavor that ever happening. "But but but only a LOSER baby man expects the woman to pay for a date!!!![said the feminist].". Lol.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:37     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No man truly wants or expects to carry household responsibilities 50/50.


For many of them, that's because they expect to carry more than 50% of some of the non-household responsibilities.


Such as?



$$$$$


So let me get this straight. Women work the same amount of hours as men and often get paid significantly less for the same work. But somehow you think that because she didn't bring home the same or higher paycheck you get to treat her like hired help.

PS I've always made more than my husband
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:36     Subject: Re:As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men are pretty simple. They are not emotionally complex nor do they need a lot of socialization. They are happy to sit alone in front of a tv for three hours watching a football game even if they have no interest in a team. They are conversation light so don’t expect to ever be on the phone with them for more than ten minutes. They like simple meals because clean up is easy. They want sex more often than a woman but if you give them a BJ once in awhile they will not complain about frequency. They like being fathers because it means they have someone to play with. Compliment or thank them for doing basic things like emptying the dishwasher because it improves the odds they will do it again without being asked. They are very unsubtle about looking at other women but it’s usually not an issue.


What kind of troglodytes are you hanging around with?

The men I know read books about history and science and want to have deep conversations. They listen to interesting podcasts and talk about them. They have hobbies and socialize with one another. They make meals for their families because they love feeding their loved ones. They love being fathers because it's amazing to watch their kids grow. They're hard working because they take pride in what they do.

I'm a woman and just realized that I could write a love letter to the amazing men in my life.


But they'd prefer you don't.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:35     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No man truly wants or expects to carry household responsibilities 50/50.


For many of them, that's because they expect to carry more than 50% of some of the non-household responsibilities.


Such as?



$$$$$
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:32     Subject: Re:As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:Men are pretty simple. They are not emotionally complex nor do they need a lot of socialization. They are happy to sit alone in front of a tv for three hours watching a football game even if they have no interest in a team. They are conversation light so don’t expect to ever be on the phone with them for more than ten minutes. They like simple meals because clean up is easy. They want sex more often than a woman but if you give them a BJ once in awhile they will not complain about frequency. They like being fathers because it means they have someone to play with. Compliment or thank them for doing basic things like emptying the dishwasher because it improves the odds they will do it again without being asked. They are very unsubtle about looking at other women but it’s usually not an issue.


What kind of troglodytes are you hanging around with?

The men I know read books about history and science and want to have deep conversations. They listen to interesting podcasts and talk about them. They have hobbies and socialize with one another. They make meals for their families because they love feeding their loved ones. They love being fathers because it's amazing to watch their kids grow. They're hard working because they take pride in what they do.

I'm a woman and just realized that I could write a love letter to the amazing men in my life.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:24     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Men are less likely to follow through on divorce proceedings. My own thoughts are that women rely on feeling and emotion much more than men in this regard. Look at the lesbian divorce rate. It’s pretty bad.

I like being a man. I’m not overly burdened by emotional impulses. I like having, basically, a uniform in terms of my clothing choices. I like decisive thinking rather than this need to form consensus on every stupid thing.

Okay, let me have it!
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 14:14     Subject: Re:As a woman what have you learned about men?
Men are pretty simple. They are not emotionally complex nor do they need a lot of socialization. They are happy to sit alone in front of a tv for three hours watching a football game even if they have no interest in a team. They are conversation light so don’t expect to ever be on the phone with them for more than ten minutes. They like simple meals because clean up is easy. They want sex more often than a woman but if you give them a BJ once in awhile they will not complain about frequency. They like being fathers because it means they have someone to play with. Compliment or thank them for doing basic things like emptying the dishwasher because it improves the odds they will do it again without being asked. They are very unsubtle about looking at other women but it’s usually not an issue.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:46     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No man truly wants or expects to carry household responsibilities 50/50.


For many of them, that's because they expect to carry more than 50% of some of the non-household responsibilities.


Such as?
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:42     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:I learned not much about men until I had 3 boys. I grew up with sisters.

Boys/men are simple for the most part. Not sure what I was so scared of all those years.

If they are not treating you the way you want to be treated then leave. Another one will always come along.


+1. Still the best advice in the entire thread.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:40     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was brought up in an exceedingly conservative family and didn't understand the first thing about relationships.

But after extirpating myself, I now understand that the *benefit of the doubt* will be given to handsome men and pretty women, and even more so if they smile and are full of goodwill, and even more so if they dress well. That's a fundamental concept that's very important both in private and professional interactions. It may seem obvious to many, but it wasn't obvious to me, at all, coming out of my childhood. And that there is a certain currency given in regards to beauty and social graces for both sexes.

This is what I'm teaching my son and daughter.


It is weird that you didn't know that as my children attending very conservative Christian schools and they always emphasize the need to dress well and professionally.


Are you so small minded you cannot fathom that this person had a different lived experience? Most traditional Christians I know focus on god and service and consider extra effort on looks and beauty as shallow. Primarily the rich ones focus on looking good and understand the currency of appearance. I
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:31     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:No man truly wants or expects to carry household responsibilities 50/50.


For many of them, that's because they expect to carry more than 50% of some of the non-household responsibilities.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:23     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
American men have a lot of issues.

Set your boundaries early on, don't do all the cooking during courtship and then expect that to change to 50/50 later (when married or when your kid is born or ever).
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:19     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men want someone attractive (subjectively to them, however that looks), kind, can hold a conversation beyond reality tv, has a degree, doesn’t insult them and likes sex a lot.

Really it’s that simple. Be nice. Be more easy going. Don’t nag and harangue too much. And just bone.

I’m probably getting divorced soon, so don’t listen to me, but as a man, that’s my advice.


I believe the above. But the question was what have you learned about men, not how to get or keep one.



If you want my honest opinion, men are more emotionally consistent than women. For example, I don’t just wake up and spit out rude comments, because something internally is bothering me, but instead of saying it in a straightforward way, women will express anger through passive aggressive gestures and harsh words. It’s catty. It’s insane.

Men are more quick to move forward and not hold long term grudges. We don’t bring things up from 10 years ago in argument. We let the past go more easily.

Women are better at forming consensus and can just sort of listen and agree with each other. Whereas men, try to drive home a point in their conversations. It’s more of a jokeying for the upper hand when we communicate.

Women make better CEOs most probably. They are more meticulous. However, they can be rude to their female counterparts and subordinates at work because women have a natural competitiveness with each other.

Men cannot stand their character being disrespected.

We’d rather reach a concrete resolution to an issue rather than hold a listening session. We don’t need to vent as much. We simply are not inately programmed with a need to verbalize our emotions as much.

We express connection and love through sex. What else is the most base form of expressing love? It’s sex. Also, it feels good. Why not do it all the time? We basically jerk off all the time anyway.

Men don’t need to dates or you take us out to dinner. Who fking cares? We live with you. We see you everyday. Why not just bang as a gift or treat? We enjoy plays and movies, but we aren’t butt hurt if you don’t set up a time every week to do some activity. Especially once we are married. I mean do you know how much a fking nanny costs? School? Sports for the kids? Why don’t we just watch a Netflix movie and then bang and go to bed at 10pm???? It’s that simple.



Amen brother
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:11     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
Men sort women into different categories and treat them accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2023 13:06     Subject: As a woman what have you learned about men?
They are just as capable as women, but far lazier and with different priorities. Don't mistake laziness, or lower standards, for inability. This is how they trap you into doing things for them! (They are conditioned by society to do this and are very good at it)

They tend to be routine oriented and fall into routines easily. So again, start like you mean to go on. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be thoughtful and do nice things for them, but watch out for patterns and signs that a nice gesture is becoming an expectation - shut that right down.

They're not really used to being complimented or having people pay attention to them. If you like them, let them know you see them and make them feel like you have their back.

Some are always chasing the new best thing. Watch out for those.

If a guy has a good relationship with sisters or other female relatives, that's a good sign. He knows, and likes, real women.