Maybe I did not explain myself well enough. I did not post a job offer yet. I posted the same original message I posted here in the general discussion in the nanny forum. I was trying to educate myself and whether there was anything I should have considered. Nobody answered in the nanny forum and I decided to try my luck here. I am not in a huge rush since my nanny won’t be leaving for months, my mom can help some and while everyone thinks the babysitting work is a huge amount of work, it really isn’t.

While nanny picks up 3 kids from school 3 days a week (I pick up and take care of my youngest 2 days), 2 of those days my older kids are in a 2 hours long activity near home. We basically drop them off and we are back home for 1.5 hours before we have to pick them up. I take care if the little one 2 afternoons a week (pick him up and take him to activity). I also take care of older 2 on 2 other days (take them to activity, supervise homework, etc.)
There is only 1 day a week where the nanny has all 3 kids in her own for 3 hours. She does however make dinner for all three kids 5 days a week (I hate cooking and feeding kids).

Anyway, while the schedule I admit is complicated, it does not change throughout the year since the kids are all in the same activities the whole year. It’s working out really well for us.

I don’t need a nanny with a graduate degree to drive my kids home or to activities and make them dinner (or clean my house). I need someone reliable and trustworthy. We also speak multiple languages at home so English proficiency is not a must.

(good fortune)

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I don’t see how the live in situation is to MY benefit. It makes absolutely no sense. Neighbors rent their basement unit for $2000+ per month. I think I will still try to advertise the position and see what kind of response I get. If DCUM is right and the deal is bad, I will rent the basement and raise the pay to $30+

Well, it is what you offered, and despite getting no takers and having to switch to another forum, still were offering. You can see why people might be confused.

Why were you sticking to this in your offer, if you were getting no takers? Because you felt the need to thrust food fortune on others?

OP here. I don’t see how the live in situation is to MY benefit. It makes absolutely no sense. Neighbors rent their basement unit for $2000+ per month. I think I will still try to advertise the position and see what kind of response I get. If DCUM is right and the deal is bad, I will rent the basement and raise the pay to $30+

Anonymous wrote:This sounds like an au pair situation? Except I guess you'd need her to drive. Not sure how that works (we have a nanny).

Au Pairs can not be house keepers, so an au pair would not work for this situation. OP's insistence that her nanny/housekeeper be one and the same is what is making this situation impossible.

This sounds like an au pair situation? Except I guess you'd need her to drive. Not sure how that works (we have a nanny).

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think that op understands how much nanny rates have increased since the pandemic. Private childcare is a luxury. I live in LA, and prior to covid, you could maybe get someone undocumented for $20-25/hr. Now that’s $25-30 for just childcare. Me? I have a degree and 20 years experience. Prior to covid, I charged $30-35/hr. Now I charge $40-45, and won’t even do date night sitting while the kids are asleep, for under $35. Times have changed, op. You got lucky once with your low rate, but I don’t think that will happen again.

OP isn't offering just $20 an hour -- she is offering $20 an hour plus free housing and utilities.

But still, OP, I'd think most folks would rather make $30-35 an hour, 40 hours a week, and pay for their own (more private and not a a basement) housing than your offer, particularly because it will be hard to fill the mornings with as lucrative a position (hardly anyone wants a just-mornings nanny).

Anonymous wrote:I would if I lived in that area. I'm a single parent and a teacher and always looked for a situation like yours. Housing takes a HUGE chunk of my income and I'd love to find housing in a safe place for me and my son. GL finding someone!

You would be able to work as a teacher just four days per week?
And always off before 3?

I would if I lived in that area. I'm a single parent and a teacher and always looked for a situation like yours. Housing takes a HUGE chunk of my income and I'd love to find housing in a safe place for me and my son. GL finding someone!

I really don’t think that op understands how much nanny rates have increased since the pandemic. Private childcare is a luxury. I live in LA, and prior to covid, you could maybe get someone undocumented for $20-25/hr. Now that’s $25-30 for just childcare. Me? I have a degree and 20 years experience. Prior to covid, I charged $30-35/hr. Now I charge $40-45, and won’t even do date night sitting while the kids are asleep, for under $35. Times have changed, op. You got lucky once with your low rate, but I don’t think that will happen again.

I think you may have more interest if you upped it to $30/hour, guaranteed 25 hours and provided healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to pay way more for three kids and a live in that isn't full time hours.

Free rent gets rid of a HUGE bill for the nanny!

Could you live on $20,000 a year?

Yes, if I did not have rent - certainly.

To add, I lived on that amount with rent, sadly.

Yes but what year was that? My first job paid $17k a year. In 1993.

Did you live at home?

No, I shared a roach infested efficienty apartment with another girl.

Anonymous wrote:I will never understand people who want to underpay the person who takes care of the most important thing in the world to you.

Not only that, but the people who would accept such low wages means they are not getting hired by the market rate jobs and why....who are you leaving your kids with...yikes.

Anonymous wrote:I was a live in nanny for $22/hr, caring for 1 child, my employer paid for the car and health insurance… in 2002. Really? $20/hr? And they need to have their own car?? Get real!

+1 I also made $20-23hr nannying in 2004-2008.

I will never understand people who want to underpay the person who takes care of the most important thing in the world to you.