Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

A permit from what entity?
And where does this list come from?
And are you suggesting that I need a permit for my kids to put a stand in my own yard?

I am not suggesting that you get your permit from the health dept, I am telling you that in order to sell edible and potable products from your home, in Virginia, the health dept. Must inspect your kitchen and any area of your house used for preparing such products. If you pass them a permit will be issued.

How is this relevant to this conversation?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

Surprising, but indeed! Doesn't anyone remember this happening to kids selling lemonade outside of the US Open at Congressional?


BETHESDA, Md. -- It was a case of bureaucracy run amok, at least from the perspective of the children operating a lemonade stand for charity near the U.S. Open. Kids from two families put up the stand on private property -- a neighbor's yard that just happens to be on a corner across from a spectator entrance to Congressional.

During Thursday's first round, they received three visits from county officials, twice with a warning. The third time, a citation was issued for operating the stand without a permit. It carried a fine of up to $500 and required a court appearance.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people, and they did not have a permit," Montgomery County's Bonnie Ayers said.
"Does every kid now that sells lemonade have to register with the county?" Carrie Marriott, whose children were hawking the drinks, asked a county official in an exchange caught on video by WUSA-TV.

The answer: yes. In theory, every lemonade stand in every private yard is supposed to have a permit. It's a law that's not usually enforced, but Montgomery County spokeswoman Bonnie Ayers said this particular stand could create a safety hazard in an area where police want to keep vehicular and pedestrian traffic moving during the tournament.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people," Ayers said, "and they did not have a permit."

https://www.espn.com/golf/usopen11/news/story?id=6674718

That doesn't answer the question at all.

Are you suggesting that every child who wants to put up a lemonade stand should get a permit?
Are you suggesting that the county would come out and tell this child to move? Why would that even be necessary?

How is this relevant?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

A permit from what entity?
And where does this list come from?
And are you suggesting that I need a permit for my kids to put a stand in my own yard?

I am not suggesting that you get your permit from the health dept, I am telling you that in order to sell edible and potable products from your home, in Virginia, the health dept. Must inspect your kitchen and any area of your house used for preparing such products. If you pass them a permit will be issued.

How is this relevant to this conversation?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

Surprising, but indeed! Doesn't anyone remember this happening to kids selling lemonade outside of the US Open at Congressional?


BETHESDA, Md. -- It was a case of bureaucracy run amok, at least from the perspective of the children operating a lemonade stand for charity near the U.S. Open. Kids from two families put up the stand on private property -- a neighbor's yard that just happens to be on a corner across from a spectator entrance to Congressional.

During Thursday's first round, they received three visits from county officials, twice with a warning. The third time, a citation was issued for operating the stand without a permit. It carried a fine of up to $500 and required a court appearance.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people, and they did not have a permit," Montgomery County's Bonnie Ayers said.
"Does every kid now that sells lemonade have to register with the county?" Carrie Marriott, whose children were hawking the drinks, asked a county official in an exchange caught on video by WUSA-TV.

The answer: yes. In theory, every lemonade stand in every private yard is supposed to have a permit. It's a law that's not usually enforced, but Montgomery County spokeswoman Bonnie Ayers said this particular stand could create a safety hazard in an area where police want to keep vehicular and pedestrian traffic moving during the tournament.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people," Ayers said, "and they did not have a permit."

https://www.espn.com/golf/usopen11/news/story?id=6674718

Anonymous wrote:The 15 +\- feet from the road is part of the street right of way so in all likelihood the kid was really not on MIL’s property.

Anonymous wrote:You must be racist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

A permit from what entity?
And where does this list come from?
And are you suggesting that I need a permit for my kids to put a stand in my own yard?

I am not suggesting that you get your permit from the health dept, I am telling you that in order to sell edible and potable products from your home, in Virginia, the health dept. Must inspect your kitchen and any area of your house used for preparing such products. If you pass them a permit will be issued.

How is this relevant to this conversation?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

Surprising, but indeed! Doesn't anyone remember this happening to kids selling lemonade outside of the US Open at Congressional?


BETHESDA, Md. -- It was a case of bureaucracy run amok, at least from the perspective of the children operating a lemonade stand for charity near the U.S. Open. Kids from two families put up the stand on private property -- a neighbor's yard that just happens to be on a corner across from a spectator entrance to Congressional.

During Thursday's first round, they received three visits from county officials, twice with a warning. The third time, a citation was issued for operating the stand without a permit. It carried a fine of up to $500 and required a court appearance.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people, and they did not have a permit," Montgomery County's Bonnie Ayers said.
"Does every kid now that sells lemonade have to register with the county?" Carrie Marriott, whose children were hawking the drinks, asked a county official in an exchange caught on video by WUSA-TV.

The answer: yes. In theory, every lemonade stand in every private yard is supposed to have a permit. It's a law that's not usually enforced, but Montgomery County spokeswoman Bonnie Ayers said this particular stand could create a safety hazard in an area where police want to keep vehicular and pedestrian traffic moving during the tournament.

"This was just not a good corner for them to be attracting people," Ayers said, "and they did not have a permit."

https://www.espn.com/golf/usopen11/news/story?id=6674718

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read it and weep!

" Most US states require permits for kids to operate lemonade stands: The following states do not require a permit." Note that DC, Maryland, and Virginia REQUIRE permits for lemonade stands!

California,
Nevada,
Utah,
Colorado,
North Dakota,
Nebraska,
Texas,
Missouri,
Louisiana,
Illinois,
New York,
Vermont,
Rhode Island
Connecticut

A permit from what entity?
And where does this list come from?
And are you suggesting that I need a permit for my kids to put a stand in my own yard?

I am not suggesting that you get your permit from the health dept, I am telling you that in order to sell edible and potable products from your home, in Virginia, the health dept. Must inspect your kitchen and any area of your house used for preparing such products. If you pass them a permit will be issued.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH and I went to my in laws house to watch MIL after a hip replacement. Their home is a corner lot that gets a lot of traffic. Someone drop their probably 10 year old kid off with a lemonade stand at the corner of the property, did not ask for permission and left the child there unsupervised. Upon finding this set up we gave the kid $40 and asked them to call their mom to pick them up because we didn’t know this child and didn’t feel comfortable having them on the property alone and inviting strangers to stop by and have noise from the stand as MIL is in recovery. Their mother came and was screaming at us, called us names and claimed we were hurting this child by not letting them have their lemonade stand at the corner of our lawn and that we were ruining their childhood. We told them to go or we would call the police. Did we do the right thing? What would you have done?

I was going to agree but then noted that he was unsupervised. I mean, come on mom or dad should have been in a lawn chair nearby at least for safety.

For a 10 yo? Craziness.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH and I went to my in laws house to watch MIL after a hip replacement. Their home is a corner lot that gets a lot of traffic. Someone drop their probably 10 year old kid off with a lemonade stand at the corner of the property, did not ask for permission and left the child there unsupervised. Upon finding this set up we gave the kid $40 and asked them to call their mom to pick them up because we didn’t know this child and didn’t feel comfortable having them on the property alone and inviting strangers to stop by and have noise from the stand as MIL is in recovery. Their mother came and was screaming at us, called us names and claimed we were hurting this child by not letting them have their lemonade stand at the corner of our lawn and that we were ruining their childhood. We told them to go or we would call the police. Did we do the right thing? What would you have done?

I was going to agree but then noted that he was unsupervised. I mean, come on mom or dad should have been in a lawn chair nearby at least for safety.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to start as you want to continue. Is this just one kid with one lemonade stand? Sure, but it is a precedent. That may not matter, but it also may drag you into the world of "but you let jeff do it last week" and "he was so excited to come back this year, since he had such a good time last year."

You don't yell, and you don't get overly emotional and brittle. You just are clear and firm that no, this is private property, and it's not happening here -- right from the go. But you can offer to help them move to a park, or a city plot, or something if you want to be nice. Just. Not. Here.

This is nuts (also, a good description of the domino theory, the basis of US foreign policy in southeast Asia in the later part of the 20th century that was a disaster . . . but I digress). I am not going through my life trying to suss out the unintended consequences of allowing a kid to set up a lemonade stand. Get a grip.

Anonymous wrote:DH and I went to my in laws house to watch MIL after a hip replacement. Their home is a corner lot that gets a lot of traffic. Someone drop their probably 10 year old kid off with a lemonade stand at the corner of the property, did not ask for permission and left the child there unsupervised. Upon finding this set up we gave the kid $40 and asked them to call their mom to pick them up because we didn’t know this child and didn’t feel comfortable having them on the property alone and inviting strangers to stop by and have noise from the stand as MIL is in recovery. Their mother came and was screaming at us, called us names and claimed we were hurting this child by not letting them have their lemonade stand at the corner of our lawn and that we were ruining their childhood. We told them to go or we would call the police. Did we do the right thing? What would you have done?

Anonymous wrote:What would I do? I'd buy some lemonade.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd let them do it. God, some people are so insane nowadays.

Dropping your kid off at some random person's house and letting them setup a lemonaide stand there is insane.

-53 year old

Seriously. 10 year olds aren’t allowed to walk home from school, but totes fine to leave them on some strangers lawn?