Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:indoctrination
As Inigo Montoya would say, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
What does it mean, then? Do enlighten us. I bet you are full of s%*#. It means exactly what we think it means.
You're the one who introduced the word to this thread, not me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:indoctrination
As Inigo Montoya would say, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
What does it mean, then? Do enlighten us. I bet you are full of s%*#. It means exactly what we think it means.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
This comment made me laugh out loud. Add in a “do better” and a “your privilege is showing” to have the maximum liberal outrage sarcasm effect.
Agree. Hilarious. Oh, and she forgot to tell us that we should be “doing the hard work.”
DP. Asking about treatment of LGBTQ individuals at Catholic schools is not disrespectful of Catholic schools. Catholic schools, if they fulfill their mission, should be teaching kind treatment of everyone. Even *if* you believe being gay is a sin, why would that sin rank higher on some hierarchy for you to the point where you think a gay person should be mistreated? Jesus sat with all kinds of sinners. He said love your neighbor and not only that, he said love your *enemy*. Basically, Jesus advocated being kind to everyone, whether you agree with them or not, whether you believe they are a sinner or not. It's really hard to do, but it's what He calls us to do.
If the last two PPs claim to be Catholic and are actually worried about upholding the teachings of Jesus, you are failing miserably. You are unkind and snarky. For what?
For sure. Jesus was kind. But He also urged CHANGE in behavior and did not mince words. Kindly, asking for a turn away from sin towards a greater plan on line with His great plan for us.
Except he didn’t urge people to change this sin. He was very clear about which sins he felt were most important to address.
Jesus was very clear on adultery being a sin. Homosexual activity falls under adultery because marriage can only be between one man and one woman.
Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic I’ve always tried to love my neighbor, and I certainly love, respect, and accept my LBGT friends and family. What has been surprising to me is to see the increasing hatred and intolerance of Catholics from secular liberals in the name of their progressive values. I don’t expect everyone to embrace my religion but if you’re preaching tolerance of all people and lifestyles that should include religious people too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:indoctrination
As Inigo Montoya would say, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Anonymous wrote:indoctrination
Anonymous wrote:Let me explain Catholic culture in this area in a nutshell:
You can respectfully disagree with Church teachings in your personal life as much as you want and it’s very unlikely anyone will bother you over that.
But don’t rock the boat in the school community.
If you are ok with that, no problem. If you aren’t, please choose a different school and leave us alone (and we’ll be happy to extend the same courtesy and not interfere with how some other private institutions run their schools either).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
The religious group behind that push is Evangelical Protestants, not Catholics.
More than a few Catholics have enthusiastically jumped on that bandwagon. Don't let them slide.
Anonymous wrote:Let me explain Catholic culture in this area in a nutshell:
You can respectfully disagree with Church teachings in your personal life as much as you want and it’s very unlikely anyone will bother you over that.
But don’t rock the boat in the school community.
If you are ok with that, no problem. If you aren’t, please choose a different school and leave us alone (and we’ll be happy to extend the same courtesy and not interfere with how some other private institutions run their schools either).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
This comment made me laugh out loud. Add in a “do better” and a “your privilege is showing” to have the maximum liberal outrage sarcasm effect.
Agree. Hilarious. Oh, and she forgot to tell us that we should be “doing the hard work.”
DP. Asking about treatment of LGBTQ individuals at Catholic schools is not disrespectful of Catholic schools. Catholic schools, if they fulfill their mission, should be teaching kind treatment of everyone. Even *if* you believe being gay is a sin, why would that sin rank higher on some hierarchy for you to the point where you think a gay person should be mistreated? Jesus sat with all kinds of sinners. He said love your neighbor and not only that, he said love your *enemy*. Basically, Jesus advocated being kind to everyone, whether you agree with them or not, whether you believe they are a sinner or not. It's really hard to do, but it's what He calls us to do.
If the last two PPs claim to be Catholic and are actually worried about upholding the teachings of Jesus, you are failing miserably. You are unkind and snarky. For what?
For sure. Jesus was kind. But He also urged CHANGE in behavior and did not mince words. Kindly, asking for a turn away from sin towards a greater plan on line with His great plan for us.
Except he didn’t urge people to change this sin. He was very clear about which sins he felt were most important to address.
Jesus was very clear on adultery being a sin. Homosexual activity falls under adultery because marriage can only be between one man and one woman.
So is premarital sex.
Yes, it is. That's why the church is against premarital sex.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
This comment made me laugh out loud. Add in a “do better” and a “your privilege is showing” to have the maximum liberal outrage sarcasm effect.
Agree. Hilarious. Oh, and she forgot to tell us that we should be “doing the hard work.”
DP. Asking about treatment of LGBTQ individuals at Catholic schools is not disrespectful of Catholic schools. Catholic schools, if they fulfill their mission, should be teaching kind treatment of everyone. Even *if* you believe being gay is a sin, why would that sin rank higher on some hierarchy for you to the point where you think a gay person should be mistreated? Jesus sat with all kinds of sinners. He said love your neighbor and not only that, he said love your *enemy*. Basically, Jesus advocated being kind to everyone, whether you agree with them or not, whether you believe they are a sinner or not. It's really hard to do, but it's what He calls us to do.
If the last two PPs claim to be Catholic and are actually worried about upholding the teachings of Jesus, you are failing miserably. You are unkind and snarky. For what?
For sure. Jesus was kind. But He also urged CHANGE in behavior and did not mince words. Kindly, asking for a turn away from sin towards a greater plan on line with His great plan for us.
Except he didn’t urge people to change this sin. He was very clear about which sins he felt were most important to address.
Jesus was very clear on adultery being a sin. Homosexual activity falls under adultery because marriage can only be between one man and one woman.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why you people who don't actually believe in Catholicism keep wanting to send your kids to Catholic schools. There are plenty of liberal privates out there. Pick any of them and leave the Catholic schools to people who actually want a space where they can be Catholics.
There are plenty of LGBTQ Catholics.
OP said it is just because the schools are close to her house. Do not pick a school that a community built to support their own beliefs and go in and try to reap the benefits while not holding yourself to their rules. That is so disrespectful.
+1 million. Imagine catholics going to some woke secular school and trying to tell them being gay is bad. They would get shredded to pieces.
..are...are you being serious here? oh boy the lack of awareness in this comment
NP - I guess I share the PP's lack of awareness, because I too think that the OP's attitude is disrespectful toward the Catholic schools. and yes, I am being serious. Tolerance is a two way street.
No, this is the fallacy of tolerance. We do not have to tolerate the intolerant. Given how well-represented the religious group is in the current push to ban and burn books in schools and libraries throughout the nation, the lack of awareness is amazing. No one is being disrespectful. But I suppose it is as they say, though, when one is used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
The religious group behind that push is Evangelical Protestants, not Catholics.
Anonymous wrote:Catholicism is a hypocritical mess. Tons of gay priests. Maybe try jewish school. It has the structure without all this focus on hating various groups.