Do you have any idea how impossible it would be to manage a classroom and for ANYONE to learn if all the trouble makers were lumped together?

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Anonymous wrote:Your quiet kids are not “buffers” - they are just getting assigned to wherever they get assigned to. I get that you dislike the “loud”
kids and think they get special treatment, but your “quiet” kid does not deserve special treatment either.

Well, no. Kids are sent to school to learn. Your loud kid has no right to keep my kid from hearing the teacher. My quiet child is not keeping your child from learning.

Your boring kid isn’t contributing much to the discussion so they aren’t helping my kid learn either

NP. It's not any child's job to teach at school. It's the teachers' job to facilitate the children accessing the curriculum. There's one child in this scenario blocking that goal, and it isn't the quiet one.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

This is why we are doomed as a society.
Immediately forgive inappropriate behavior. Perpetrators do not have to face consequences for their misdeeds.
Innocent people trying their best have to pay.

We ARE talking about 12 year olds getting distracted when they are supposed to be diagramming sentences, right?

Why does it sound like someone was murdered?

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

The bothered kids with involved parents will be moved, and the bothered kids with checked out parents will be put there instead. Not a great solution. Whenever this happens to one of my kids, I just get them moved. I’ve never received pushback.

Involved doesn’t mean you have power to get the principal to move your child or to move them yourself to private. I was very involved when my daughter was in pre-K and had a disruptive and violent classmate. I was powerless until I got a better job and was able to afford to move her to private for the spring semester. Ironically, the new job forced me to be less involved as I had to work 50 hour weeks.

Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

+1. It also discourages promising young people from entering the profession.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

This is why we are doomed as a society.
Immediately forgive inappropriate behavior. Perpetrators do not have to face consequences for their misdeeds.
Innocent people trying their best have to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

The bothered kids with involved parents will be moved, and the bothered kids with checked out parents will be put there instead. Not a great solution. Whenever this happens to one of my kids, I just get them moved. I’ve never received pushback.

Can't be too big of an issue if just changing seats fixes the problem. Obviously the loud kids aren't that loud.

Disruptive does not have to be loud. Nice try?

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Assigned seating in class or at lunch where well behaved kids are sprinkled amongst the troublemakers.

I mean, isn't that just how assigned seating works? Or are you suggesting labeling each kid as well-behaved or trouble maker and segregating accordingly? Hopefully you realize how silly that sounds.

Not silly at all- common. For example at a table of four a teacher will put: 2 well behaved girls and one quiet boy with a troublemaking boy. Never more than one troublemaker together. It is pretty obvious.

I'm not a teacher .... but that seems like a very practical approach. What would you prefer, all the troublemakers grouped together at one table?? That would be a disaster for everyone in the room.

I would prefer that disruptive kids who can’t behave themselves in a mainstream classroom in a way that allows everyone else to learn are removed from mainstream classrooms. In previous decades the teachers had one of those kid in every class but now there’s a group. It’s not fair to the kids who are at school to learn.

Agree. Why are there so many?

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

The bothered kids with involved parents will be moved, and the bothered kids with checked out parents will be put there instead. Not a great solution. Whenever this happens to one of my kids, I just get them moved. I’ve never received pushback.

Can't be too big of an issue if just changing seats fixes the problem. Obviously the loud kids aren't that loud.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

The bothered kids with involved parents will be moved, and the bothered kids with checked out parents will be put there instead. Not a great solution. Whenever this happens to one of my kids, I just get them moved. I’ve never received pushback.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

Since there will be no solutions to that anytime soon, the bothered kids need to work on their coping strategies.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

The problem is that kids aren’t just trying to “exist” in the same area as them. They’re forced to stay in the same area as disrespectful/disruptive kids while they’re trying to get an education at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:Listening to all these parents in here defending their kid’s poor behavior is exactly why great teachers are leaving the profession in droves and education is going in the toilet.

It is sad that kids aren’t able to cope being around other kids who act like kids. I don’t remember silent classrooms where nobody ever talked.

You are being deliberately obtuse and argumentative. That’s not what we are talking about and you know it.

Are you sure? The name calling of kids in here makes this whole thread a joke and impossibly to take seriously.

Try subbing in a public school for a day. You will no longer be confused what we mean.

Why would I do that? I don't even send my own kids to a public school. But chatty kids and people are everywhere shouting on their phones acting like they are the only people who exist. People need to learn to co-exist and that you can't control other people.

You know, only three states ban the use of corporal punishment. A swift smack across the knuckles with a ruler might incentivize these disruptive children to buck up and fly right.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does this mean?

Assigned seating in class or at lunch where well behaved kids are sprinkled amongst the troublemakers.

I mean, isn't that just how assigned seating works? Or are you suggesting labeling each kid as well-behaved or trouble maker and segregating accordingly? Hopefully you realize how silly that sounds.

Not silly at all- common. For example at a table of four a teacher will put: 2 well behaved girls and one quiet boy with a troublemaking boy. Never more than one troublemaker together. It is pretty obvious.

I'm not a teacher .... but that seems like a very practical approach. What would you prefer, all the troublemakers grouped together at one table?? That would be a disaster for everyone in the room.

I would prefer that disruptive kids who can’t behave themselves in a mainstream classroom in a way that allows everyone else to learn are removed from mainstream classrooms. In previous decades the teachers had one of those kid in every class but now there’s a group. It’s not fair to the kids who are at school to learn.