Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 23:45     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


The entire incoming class did not have those scores. It is representative of only those that submit. That is what some people are commenting on.


only 35% don't submit. Be grateful we have such accounting in Virginia


???
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:30     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


The entire incoming class did not have those scores. It is representative of only those that submit. That is what some people are commenting on.


only 35% don't submit. Be grateful we have such accounting in Virginia
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:24     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


And then there’s the 50% who did not submit, who presumably scored even lower than that.



Whom are hooked. You know that. stop pretending otherwise. That's where the athletes, legacies, URM, first generation, etc., friends of friends, national award winners, obscure instrument players, etc. come in.


The problem with your argument is that you are assuming that all of the hooked applicants went TO. We don't know that percentage--could be as high as 70%, could be low.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:17     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


And then there’s the 50% who did not submit, who presumably scored even lower than that.



Whom are hooked. You know that. stop pretending otherwise. That's where the athletes, legacies, URM, first generation, etc., friends of friends, national award winners, obscure instrument players, etc. come in.


And like an earlier poster noted, when you count in ACT score submissions, the percent who go test optional are 35%. And those without another hook are the ones with the really high GPAs.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:11     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


And then there’s the 50% who did not submit, who presumably scored even lower than that.



Whom are hooked. You know that. stop pretending otherwise. That's where the athletes, legacies, URM, first generation, etc., friends of friends, national award winners, obscure instrument players, etc. come in.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 10:32     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


The entire incoming class did not have those scores. It is representative of only those that submit. That is what some people are commenting on.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 10:23     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

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Anonymous wrote:Are the gpa column values at time of application or final gpa after senior year?


Should be graduation GPA.


+1 yes, the data comes from the CDS, which is the final transcript GPA of admitted high school seniors.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 10:17     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


And then there’s the 50% who did not submit, who presumably scored even lower than that.


35% if you count SAT and ACT combined
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 09:44     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Anonymous wrote:Are the gpa column values at time of application or final gpa after senior year?


Should be graduation GPA.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 09:44     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Anonymous wrote:Are the gpa column values at time of application or final gpa after senior year?


Final after graduation. For a weighted GPA if your kid is at 25% now they will likely rise above 50% if they don't screw around.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 09:30     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Are the gpa column values at time of application or final gpa after senior year?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 09:17     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


And then there’s the 50% who did not submit, who presumably scored even lower than that.


That is a fact, although it isn't really relevant to the quoted comment about what test scores would be worth reporting this year.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 09:13     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

I wish that it showed the difference between in state and out of state.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 06:29     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.


And then there’s the 50% who did not submit, who presumably scored even lower than that.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 03:01     Subject: SCHEV stats for VA colleges for last admission cycle released

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UVA the highest test scores in the state. Obviously


50% of the entering class didn't submit SAT scores.

Pretty consistent across the board for the competitive publics (45% at Tech and W&M)

What's surprising to me is that only 30% of the entering class at Washington & Lee submitted SAT scores (and the percentiles were identical to UVA).



Do parents still think test optional is a fad?



Another 26% submit ACT scores so about 50% submit scores. That said, they were encouraging test optional on the tour. My daughter goes there now and got in test optional.


Unless you get a good score, in which case they matter more than ever.


And ... *checks notes* ... you might submit both to drive the point home.


Ok, you’ve convinced me. White kids at Virginia colleges can’t do basic algebra. My kid is sick and tired of taking high school math with kids like that, so we will look outside the state of Virginia for college.



UVA's incoming class last year had a math SAT at 780 for the 75th percentile (meaning 25% had more); a 760 at the median and a 710 at the bottom 25th of the class.


That top 25% had greater than or equal to 780. The bottom 25% was below 710 not at 710. Who knows how low the bottom 10%, 5%, or even 2% went.