Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:58     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:If I was McCarthy I'd tell them all to f off and become a democrat.



I have this fantasy, too.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:57     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

I used to think that Republicans (at least the country club Republicans who held elected office from the time of Reagan through the George Bushes) were disciplined, rule-driven, heartless, and bloodless. And we Democrats were part of the party that caused Will Rogers to say, "I don't belong to any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." Well, no longer...but now some of the sane Republicans will elect someone else, and the far right will continue to throw tantrums.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:55     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:Dude, they didn’t say they would solve your problems. They want to solve America’s problems.


Blah blah. Every single one of them was on board with McCarthy's plan to shut down the Government and blame democrats. Every single one of them was on board with McCarthy's plan to threaten to default on the debt in order to extort concessions out of democrats. Good riddance.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:48     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Dude, they didn’t say they would solve your problems. They want to solve America’s problems.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:45     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome Speaker Scalise.


The only way he becomes Speaker is if he can either convince the Freedumb Caucus to trust him (and risk getting screwed by them) or by convincing Dems to support him (not likely to happen)

DP. But I agree he’s the most likely candidate. However, he has myeloma.

It’s a very treatable cancer and he should be able to live for a long time, hopefully. Whether he wants to waste it on these morons is another question.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:45     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With all their criticism of Dems, you'd think Republicans are offering a better-run, more effective alternative. Instead, they offer a presidential candidate who is facing multiple legal charges, a minority senate leader who has one foot in the grave, and a slim majority in the House that is characterized by infighting and disarray. Way to go, Repugs! Why should anyone believe you'd be able to deliver on anything but political theater?


Well said

Nonetheless: McCarthy losing his position as speaker of the house because he chose to keep government running even though he must have known the MAGAs would never forgive him - reflects well on him and his legacy.

He has done some crazy stuff but he chose to keep government running, which many MAGAs don’t want to do.

I don’t think they realize that a healthy private sector requires a functioning public sector. Companies need educated healthy employees, safe roads and airways for transporting trades goods, safe food supplies, and many other functions of government.


Don't kid yourself. He wanted a shutdown. But it only works if you pass a bill to hand to the Senate, so they reject it and there's a stalemate so you point the finger at the other party. When you can't even do that, you are a failure. And he was a failure.


+1. He didn't compromise. He just couldn't pull off his plan to shut down the government and blame democrats, so he folded.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:44     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:43     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Welcome Speaker Scalise.


The only way he becomes Speaker is if he can either convince the Freedumb Caucus to trust him (and risk getting screwed by them) or by convincing Dems to support him (not likely to happen)

DP. But I agree he’s the most likely candidate. However, he has myeloma.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:41     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:Welcome Speaker Scalise.


The only way he becomes Speaker is if he can either convince the Freedumb Caucus to trust him (and risk getting screwed by them) or by convincing Dems to support him (not likely to happen)
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:31     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With all their criticism of Dems, you'd think Republicans are offering a better-run, more effective alternative. Instead, they offer a presidential candidate who is facing multiple legal charges, a minority senate leader who has one foot in the grave, and a slim majority in the House that is characterized by infighting and disarray. Way to go, Repugs! Why should anyone believe you'd be able to deliver on anything but political theater?


Well said

Nonetheless: McCarthy losing his position as speaker of the house because he chose to keep government running even though he must have known the MAGAs would never forgive him - reflects well on him and his legacy.

He has done some crazy stuff but he chose to keep government running, which many MAGAs don’t want to do.

I don’t think they realize that a healthy private sector requires a functioning public sector. Companies need educated healthy employees, safe roads and airways for transporting trades goods, safe food supplies, and many other functions of government.


Don't kid yourself. He wanted a shutdown. But it only works if you pass a bill to hand to the Senate, so they reject it and there's a stalemate so you point the finger at the other party. When you can't even do that, you are a failure. And he was a failure.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:11     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With all their criticism of Dems, you'd think Republicans are offering a better-run, more effective alternative. Instead, they offer a presidential candidate who is facing multiple legal charges, a minority senate leader who has one foot in the grave, and a slim majority in the House that is characterized by infighting and disarray. Way to go, Repugs! Why should anyone believe you'd be able to deliver on anything but political theater?


Well said

Nonetheless: McCarthy losing his position as speaker of the house because he chose to keep government running even though he must have known the MAGAs would never forgive him - reflects well on him and his legacy.

He has done some crazy stuff but he chose to keep government running, which many MAGAs don’t want to do.

I don’t think they realize that a healthy private sector requires a functioning public sector. Companies need educated healthy employees, safe roads and airways for transporting trades goods, safe food supplies, and many other functions of government.


Not to mention properly funded military … they have held up appointments for so many military leadership positions as it is .., not paying deployed troops on top of that could have been disastrous for national security.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:09     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:With all their criticism of Dems, you'd think Republicans are offering a better-run, more effective alternative. Instead, they offer a presidential candidate who is facing multiple legal charges, a minority senate leader who has one foot in the grave, and a slim majority in the House that is characterized by infighting and disarray. Way to go, Repugs! Why should anyone believe you'd be able to deliver on anything but political theater?


Well said

Nonetheless: McCarthy losing his position as speaker of the house because he chose to keep government running even though he must have known the MAGAs would never forgive him - reflects well on him and his legacy.

He has done some crazy stuff but he chose to keep government running, which many MAGAs don’t want to do.

I don’t think they realize that a healthy private sector requires a functioning public sector. Companies need educated healthy employees, safe roads and airways for transporting trades goods, safe food supplies, and many other functions of government.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 18:04     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Go Matt!

Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 17:55     Subject: Re:Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Welcome Speaker Scalise.
Anonymous
Post 10/03/2023 17:54     Subject: Republican Hardliners Rolled and the future of McCarthy

Anonymous wrote:Speaker McCarthy lasted 24.5 Scaramuccis.

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