Anonymous
03/27/2024 12:03
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good for the woman suing the filmer who monetized the interaction.
Disgusting behavior.
Definitely the new fender bender scam.
This is not helping racial relations. It is creating continuing divides and stirring the pot. This is not helping anyone.
Why is this thread being revived? But since it is, whatever happened to the Weustenbergs in the Chipotle incident?
Says the charges were dropped. I wonder where they are now--they both lost their jobs.
https://news.yahoo.com/case-dropped-against-couple-gun-165657181.html
Was that a gun charge? We need more of that and less people claiming fear. The mother and daughter followed the couple to their car and the teen was screaming “Ill beat your White ass”. Pulling a gun was wrong, guns should be illegal in cars but the aggressors were the mother and daughter. The charges were dropped because the mother didn’t show up as a witness.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 09:48
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good for the woman suing the filmer who monetized the interaction.
Disgusting behavior.
Definitely the new fender bender scam.
This is not helping racial relations. It is creating continuing divides and stirring the pot. This is not helping anyone.
Why is this thread being revived? But since it is, whatever happened to the Weustenbergs in the Chipotle incident?
Says the charges were dropped. I wonder where they are now--they both lost their jobs.
https://news.yahoo.com/case-dropped-against-couple-gun-165657181.html
Anonymous
03/27/2024 09:32
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Things went well when they got rid of the Angels, now the obese and mentally ill are encouraged to come
Well you're there so you'd know, right?
Anonymous
03/27/2024 09:25
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Things went well when they got rid of the Angels, now the obese and mentally ill are encouraged to come
Anonymous
03/27/2024 08:44
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Uh, yes? Stores have cameras. Shopping centers have camera. There is no assumption of privacy, unless you're in a changing room or something. When you're in public... it's public.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 08:35
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
In a private store. This wasn't the DMV.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 08:30
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Yikes. I can understand when doing something like a ribbon cutting, but should we expect to be filmed when doing our private errands?
Anonymous
03/27/2024 08:27
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Good for the woman suing the filmer who monetized the interaction.
Disgusting behavior.
Definitely the new fender bender scam.
This is not helping racial relations. It is creating continuing divides and stirring the pot. This is not helping anyone.
Why is this thread being revived? But since it is, whatever happened to the Weustenbergs in the Chipotle incident?
Anonymous
03/27/2024 08:07
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
By exploit I mean uploading a video for views / go fund me money. I can understand taking a video of a mentally I’ll person, for your own protection. I can understand handing that over to the cops to assist prosecution. But why upload it to the internet for all to see? I understand that is legally permissible, but why do it? To shame her? To make money off the encounter? To get sympathy? That’s what I meant by “exploit.”
I see what you're saying. But at the same time, I can see how posting a video serves as a deterrent. I highly doubt this was the first time Ms. Elphick behaved like this. But it may very well be the last, precisely because of it being public. Sometimes we need to see ourselves to change or make better choices of how we act in public.
Pp here. Fair point, especially given the races in this specific encounter and historically black women not being believed.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 07:18
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
By exploit I mean uploading a video for views / go fund me money. I can understand taking a video of a mentally I’ll person, for your own protection. I can understand handing that over to the cops to assist prosecution. But why upload it to the internet for all to see? I understand that is legally permissible, but why do it? To shame her? To make money off the encounter? To get sympathy? That’s what I meant by “exploit.”
I see what you're saying. But at the same time, I can see how posting a video serves as a deterrent. I highly doubt this was the first time Ms. Elphick behaved like this. But it may very well be the last, precisely because of it being public. Sometimes we need to see ourselves to change or make better choices of how we act in public.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 07:06
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
By exploit I mean uploading a video for views / go fund me money. I can understand taking a video of a mentally I’ll person, for your own protection. I can understand handing that over to the cops to assist prosecution. But why upload it to the internet for all to see? I understand that is legally permissible, but why do it? To shame her? To make money off the encounter? To get sympathy? That’s what I meant by “exploit.”
Anonymous
03/27/2024 07:02
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
No one exploited Abigail Elphick. Her actions are her own, mental illness or not. One should expect to be filmed in public in this day and age. And if you're bothered by that fact, behave like you don't want your poor behavior memorialized forever. If you can't control yourself, then you should not go out in public. You don't get a pass to hit someone, harass them, or be rude - just because of your mental illness.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 06:59
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Do we have to be on one side or the other? I think I’m “team no one”. I agree that you cannot touch someone else - that crosses a line and the woman filming may have started out filming for her own protection / documentation. But she then took it too far. Just like the mentally I’ll shouldn’t be in public if they can’t control themselves, I think we as members of society have a responsibility to not exploit / aggravate them - it’s quite dangerous to do so.
Anonymous
03/27/2024 06:53
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
However mentally ill you are, you are not excused from harassing or touching someone else. If your mental illness makes you a problem in public, then you don't go in public. Period.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
I am firmly on the side of the woman filming. Too many people use mental illness to get away with shit. I'm sorry if you're struggling and hope that you are able to have things under control at some point, but the point at which your mental illness can affect others, is a firm red line.
Anonymous
03/26/2024 23:46
Subject: Victoria’s Secret “Karen” sues, says she is the victim
Anonymous wrote:I feel like about 25% of the women who post here are just like that white woman.
Is that meant to be funny. It's not. The mental health crisis in this country, exacerbated by the pandemic, is not funny.
Nor is how the attempts to address racism in this country get all twisted around by people just looking to make a buck.
It's all disgusting.