Anonymous
07/25/2025 22:04
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
I don’t know about vaginal birth, but I’ve had four c sections and still have fantastic sex
Anonymous
07/25/2025 21:44
Subject: Re:Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:I’ve said it on numerous threads which are all the same. Heated discourse, personal anecdotes, but the data shows most women will have an uncomplicated vaginal delivery. But for those in the unlucky 2-3% who’ve had muscles torn off the bone that can’t be reattached and for which there is no cure - we’d prefer c-sections. I wasn’t even aware through all my research or appts during pregnancy that you tear so badly that no amount of stitching, surgery, or PT could repair it.
It’s actually around 20 percent of women who experience levator ani avulsion from vaginal birth. It’s far more common than 2-3 percent. Some stats are even higher, over 1/3.
As someone who has this, there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t have issues with my body and that I don’t wish I had a c-section.
https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378(23)02116-6/fulltext
Anonymous
07/25/2025 18:36
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.
The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.
Some women feel numb on the skin but still feel visceral pain. They feel the surgery. It’s risky to put a pregnant woman under general anesthesia, the doctors let the mothers suffer because of the risk of general.
Again, the study measures "felt pain" by counting the number of patients who had their meds increased. No part of the study involved asking women if they felt pain a) at all or b) after the meds were increased.
Typically women’s pain is down played during birth. Can you imagine a man having another type of surgery and feeling the pain? It wouldn’t fly.
Anonymous
07/25/2025 17:52
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.
The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.
Some women feel numb on the skin but still feel visceral pain. They feel the surgery. It’s risky to put a pregnant woman under general anesthesia, the doctors let the mothers suffer because of the risk of general.
Again, the study measures "felt pain" by counting the number of patients who had their meds increased. No part of the study involved asking women if they felt pain a) at all or b) after the meds were increased.
Anonymous
07/25/2025 16:36
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:
Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.
The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.
Some women feel numb on the skin but still feel visceral pain. They feel the surgery. It’s risky to put a pregnant woman under general anesthesia, the doctors let the mothers suffer because of the risk of general.
Anonymous
07/25/2025 10:18
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Both of these links acknowledge that this is primarily issue in emergency sections. Because, if it's not an emergency and you say "ouch," they stop and fix your meds. In an emergency, they may have to go to general anesthetic so that you aren't in pain. The study figures include everybody who got their meds topped up or got general anesthetic, for any reason.
The article refers to one woman who says she felt the whole procedure. I don't know if she didn't speak up, or she did and wasn't taken seriously, or she's convinced herself she felt things she didn't. But the idea that 6% of sections go like that is not supported in the data.
Anonymous
07/24/2025 21:48
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous
07/24/2025 21:45
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.
You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?
Yeah, no. Source for this bullshit claim that 8% of c-section moms’ anesthesia doesn’t work?
Not BS but not widely discussed. Women need to know the risks.
Anonymous
07/24/2025 21:43
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Here is some information about pain during C-section.
https://www.asahq.org/standards-and-practice-parameters/statement-on-pain-during-cesarean-delivery
https://www.asahq.org/standards-and-practice-parameters/statement-on-pain-during-cesarean-delivery
Anonymous
07/24/2025 20:39
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.
You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?
Yeah, no. Source for this bullshit claim that 8% of c-section moms’ anesthesia doesn’t work?
Anonymous
07/24/2025 20:33
Subject: Re:Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
I’ve said it on numerous threads which are all the same. Heated discourse, personal anecdotes, but the data shows most women will have an uncomplicated vaginal delivery. But for those in the unlucky 2-3% who’ve had muscles torn off the bone that can’t be reattached and for which there is no cure - we’d prefer c-sections. I wasn’t even aware through all my research or appts during pregnancy that you tear so badly that no amount of stitching, surgery, or PT could repair it.
Anonymous
07/24/2025 20:31
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Yes. I had a traumatic delivery. Ignored when I voiced concerns. Now I have the physical pain as a constant reminder of what I went through.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.
You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?
Anonymous
07/24/2025 19:49
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
+1 I had an unmedicated vaginal the first time and an unexpected C-section with my 2nd. The vaginal birth was so much easier.Anonymous wrote:I would avoid surgery if possible.
Anonymous
07/24/2025 19:49
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
A second? Huh? You're 40. At 42 IVF clinics won't see you...
Anonymous
07/24/2025 19:45
Subject: Debating Planned C-Section v. Vaginal Birth (1st child)
Anonymous wrote:Because I’m part of the 3% of women who deliver vaginally that will have pain for the rest of their lives. I’d take 30 minutes of pain over a lifetime.Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why anyone would want to plan a c-section because about 8 % of women “feel” the pain during the operation. Anesthesia doesn’t always work.
You would have PTSD for the rest of your life from feeling your organs being removed and cut and burned during a c section. Do you have PTSD from your vag pain?