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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Yale sounds like a truly horrific place to me. Please don’t let your kids apply! The acceptance rate is too low already
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I wish nonsense like this would turn people away. Yale is my kid’s dream school!
To be honest, crime concerns and lack of STEM strength
have turned people and away and pushed Yale to the bottom of HYPSM, and I’ve seen more than a few posters just using HPSM to refer to the best schools (HPSM are equally strong in humanities and STEM and have “the best of both worlds”).
Reality: no one says HPSM except trolls trying to boost lower Ivies.
I didn’t go to any of these schools, but I’m sick of the Yale, Columbia and UChicago bashing. It’s so stupid.
It should just be HS at this point anyway. They are great in every program across STEM, the humanities, and social sciences in a way the others just are not.
Yale still belongs with that 2nd group of YPM though. Remember that HYP is actually the OG group.
For undergrad, I’d pick Yale and Princeton any day over Harvard regardless of major. Have heard from enough Harvard College alums how much they have hated it. Can’t speak about Stanford.
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I’m a Harvard College alum (graduated in the early 2000s) and while bashing Yale, the safety school as we used to call it, is always fun I couldn’t agree more with the statement above. While at Harvard College, I didn’t feel that undergrads were the focus of the university. It felt like just another school among the graduate and professional schools. The feeling is quite different at Yale based on my observations from many campus visits and close relationships with Yalies. At Yale, Yale College is the heart and soul of the university and I could always feel that when I was on campus.
At my Harvard graduation, my friend group was split - half loved their experience, the other half, me included, not so much. My kid expressed interest in attending Harvard, I flat out told him that I wouldn’t pay for it for undergrad. It’s overrated. I’d pay for Yale, Princeton, some SLACS, even some state honours programs, but Harvard undergrad - no way in hell!
Also, some people commented on here how Yale has been coasting on its name. Perhaps. Watching Harvard over the past 20 years, I feel they have been resting on their laurels. Recently, the son of one of the senior partners at my firm got admitted to Harvard College. When the kid tried to talk to admission officers and others and ask why he should attend, everyone said “well, it’s Harvard”. That to me is coasting. It’s not the 1950s anymore. With college coasts at an all time high, with elite employers opening up access beyond the Ivy League and with driven smart kids from state schools getting similar career outcomes to Ivy League students (acknowledging it is harder for them), just saying “well, it’s Harvard” is not good enough for me.