Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 22:55     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Are these speculations about the "many" universities or is there anything official? It's a genuine question
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 22:48     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such blatant hypocrisy. At elite colleges the professors tend to be self-righteous about social justice & helping the downtrodden. Power to the people!! But threaten THEIR privileges and they respond like Thurston Howell III being offered a wine cooler.


It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


This is 100% accurate. I'm a JHU staff member and have been for *mumble* years -- JHU pays for 50% of dependents' undergrad tuition at any accredited school. I have been counting on it in my financial planning and would be royally screwed if that went away! My kid will probably apply to Hopkins because it's a decent fit, but I expect zero admissions boost, just the normal lottery ticket. I assume that perk is reserved for star faculty members. I'm just a middle-level cog.



So you'd be in the exact same position as someone who is not college faculty/staff and makes the same money as you (which is the vast majority of the population)? Cry me a river.


My friend, someone who did it exactly the same job as I do NOT at JHU would be earning a heck of a lot more money and thus be better able to save for their kid’s college. The mythical staff-kid-admission-boost may be unfair, but the actual staff-kid-tuition-break is perfectly fair.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 22:44     Subject: Re:Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I work at a highly ranked public flagship university. A few years ago we interviewed a faculty candidate who explicitly asked whether children of faculty get special consideration for admissions, and was told no (and subsequently turned down the job offer).

Is this a thing at private universities?

I work at a private university. I am absolutely positive there is no boost for admission of faculty and staff dependents.



Okay, cool.

It’s clear that at many universities (UVa, Stanford) faculty’s brats are given a huge boost.

Is it fair? You can make the argument, but it’s easy to poke holes in.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 22:31     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
PP: at our university, of course
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 22:18     Subject: Re:Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:I work at a highly ranked public flagship university. A few years ago we interviewed a faculty candidate who explicitly asked whether children of faculty get special consideration for admissions, and was told no (and subsequently turned down the job offer).

Is this a thing at private universities?

I work at a private university. I am absolutely positive there is no boost for admission of faculty and staff dependents.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 16:06     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Faculty and high-level staff are arguably far more important to most top universities than students (especially at research universities). These benefits are a small price to pay to attract and keep the best professors. Professors also tend to care about academic prestige more than most people.
Also, depending on the area and what they choose to do beyond their 9-month deals, many profs make great money and love what they do.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 16:00     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


Everyone who makes the same salary as an academic, but who is not an academic, has just as a good a reason to have that job as the academics do. There is no reason to privilege academics just because they took a low-paying job over anyone else who took an equally low-paying job.


Why can’t my kid get your employee benefits?

Do you complain that military get free healthcare?

Different jobs have different benefits.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 15:26     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such blatant hypocrisy. At elite colleges the professors tend to be self-righteous about social justice & helping the downtrodden. Power to the people!! But threaten THEIR privileges and they respond like Thurston Howell III being offered a wine cooler.


It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


This is 100% accurate. I'm a JHU staff member and have been for *mumble* years -- JHU pays for 50% of dependents' undergrad tuition at any accredited school. I have been counting on it in my financial planning and would be royally screwed if that went away! My kid will probably apply to Hopkins because it's a decent fit, but I expect zero admissions boost, just the normal lottery ticket. I assume that perk is reserved for star faculty members. I'm just a middle-level cog.



So you'd be in the exact same position as someone who is not college faculty/staff and makes the same money as you (which is the vast majority of the population)? Cry me a river.


I work for a JHU affiliated organization and I get this tuition benefit; it’s one of the reasons I’m willing to take less money here than I could get at another company.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 15:22     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


Everyone who makes the same salary as an academic, but who is not an academic, has just as a good a reason to have that job as the academics do. There is no reason to privilege academics just because they took a low-paying job over anyone else who took an equally low-paying job.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 15:19     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:Most kids of college professors are not slackers. They are hard working in academics as that’s what their first role models in life do. They help lift up the college if the kids are willing to go there.


If these kids are not slackers then they don't need any admissions bump.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 15:17     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such blatant hypocrisy. At elite colleges the professors tend to be self-righteous about social justice & helping the downtrodden. Power to the people!! But threaten THEIR privileges and they respond like Thurston Howell III being offered a wine cooler.


It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


This is 100% accurate. I'm a JHU staff member and have been for *mumble* years -- JHU pays for 50% of dependents' undergrad tuition at any accredited school. I have been counting on it in my financial planning and would be royally screwed if that went away! My kid will probably apply to Hopkins because it's a decent fit, but I expect zero admissions boost, just the normal lottery ticket. I assume that perk is reserved for star faculty members. I'm just a middle-level cog.



So you'd be in the exact same position as someone who is not college faculty/staff and makes the same money as you (which is the vast majority of the population)? Cry me a river.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 14:26     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
An angry teenage troll is back and working all of these threads. I wish summer camp was more affordable.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 14:23     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such blatant hypocrisy. At elite colleges the professors tend to be self-righteous about social justice & helping the downtrodden. Power to the people!! But threaten THEIR privileges and they respond like Thurston Howell III being offered a wine cooler.


It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


This is 100% accurate. I'm a JHU staff member and have been for *mumble* years -- JHU pays for 50% of dependents' undergrad tuition at any accredited school. I have been counting on it in my financial planning and would be royally screwed if that went away! My kid will probably apply to Hopkins because it's a decent fit, but I expect zero admissions boost, just the normal lottery ticket. I assume that perk is reserved for star faculty members. I'm just a middle-level cog.



Stop acting coy. I don’t know specifically about JHU but most colleges give a boost to faculty kids


DP: I don't think that's accurate.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 13:31     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such blatant hypocrisy. At elite colleges the professors tend to be self-righteous about social justice & helping the downtrodden. Power to the people!! But threaten THEIR privileges and they respond like Thurston Howell III being offered a wine cooler.


It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.


This is 100% accurate. I'm a JHU staff member and have been for *mumble* years -- JHU pays for 50% of dependents' undergrad tuition at any accredited school. I have been counting on it in my financial planning and would be royally screwed if that went away! My kid will probably apply to Hopkins because it's a decent fit, but I expect zero admissions boost, just the normal lottery ticket. I assume that perk is reserved for star faculty members. I'm just a middle-level cog.



Stop acting coy. I don’t know specifically about JHU but most colleges give a boost to faculty kids
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2023 13:28     Subject: Legacy? Some are worried it would also mean the end Children of Faculty Admissions Boost?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Such blatant hypocrisy. At elite colleges the professors tend to be self-righteous about social justice & helping the downtrodden. Power to the people!! But threaten THEIR privileges and they respond like Thurston Howell III being offered a wine cooler.


It's not about privilege. It's a benefit/perk of the low paying jobs in academia to get a tuition break for your own kids. Most profs/staff would be just as happy if the tuition break carries over to other schools (and it does at some universities). They want the tuition break that they have been told is a perk of lower paying employment for years. Same with staff----most staff in academia would get paid more outside academia.
Most kids of college professors are not slackers. They are hard working in academics as that’s what their first role models in life do. They help lift up the college if the kids are willing to go there. [/quote

Are you trying to say kids of blue collar workers are slackers? Would they bring down a college rather than lifting it up by attending? Maybe reflect on your innate biases towards lower income people