Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:30     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


Literally spending the money on infrastructure and sticking a Target there would have a bigger economic impact on the city. Every economist knows this.


yes, but an NFL stadium brings tourism, opens DC up for larger concert venues, global events, other sporting venues (world cups, college bowls, etc) , its cultural addition versus a freakin target.

Money talks and the people against the stadium will obviously lose. Get excited! Football in DC is coming back

Bowser wants her legacy
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:29     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


All of those cities have multiple soccer stadiums (OK, I'm not sure about Tokyo and Lagos and Sydney). I mean London has 22 soccer stadiums within city limits.

And of course, none of those cities have an NFL team, so having an NFL stadium would be silly.


Poor London and Paris, struggling on despite the burden of not having an NFL team or NFL stadium...


Imagine the London and Paris soccer teams pulling out of the EPL and UEFA and then get back to me. You must be really fun at parties.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:27     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:Ugh no. Not in DC.

Let some other suckers pay a billionaire for a stadium that gets used 10-20 days a year.


Yes. I'm totally in favor of letting them build a stadium; totally against using my tax dollars to subsidize it. (And I know that means it will never be built.)
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:24     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.


Can you point to any downtowns revitalized by NFL stadiums? Most of them are in suburbs because that's where they make sense


nearly half are in downtowns and the vast majority are within 5 miles of downtown..

https://dailysnark.com/2023/01/20/cool-graphic-shows-how-far-nfl-teams-stadiums-are-from-their-respective-city-centers/
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:21     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Seattle, Pittsburgh, Detroit, cincy, Minneapolis are great examples…


Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:21     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



I do want the stadium in DC, but let's be honest, an NFL stadium is use for football maybe 12 times per year, and then add a handful of concerts over the summer, and perhaps 1-2 international soccer matches, so being generous, 25 times per year. Nats Park is used 81 times for baseball and add 5 concerts and a few other events and it is maybe 90 times per year. See the problem? For almost the entire year, it is a fallow area with no vibrancy. Now, if it is well designed, wrapped in retail and without surface parking, then it could be fine as a "hidden jewel" - but the model RFK held as a stadium site won't cut it in the 21st century.


Without any visitor parking. If there's visitor parking, people will drive there, and that's bad for the neighborhood. You want to go to RFK? Take the Metro.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:17     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.


Can you point to any downtowns revitalized by NFL stadiums? Most of them are in suburbs because that's where they make sense
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:16     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



I do want the stadium in DC, but let's be honest, an NFL stadium is use for football maybe 12 times per year, and then add a handful of concerts over the summer, and perhaps 1-2 international soccer matches, so being generous, 25 times per year. Nats Park is used 81 times for baseball and add 5 concerts and a few other events and it is maybe 90 times per year. See the problem? For almost the entire year, it is a fallow area with no vibrancy. Now, if it is well designed, wrapped in retail and without surface parking, then it could be fine as a "hidden jewel" - but the model RFK held as a stadium site won't cut it in the 21st century.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:15     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


Literally spending the money on infrastructure and sticking a Target there would have a bigger economic impact on the city. Every economist knows this.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:14     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


All of those cities have multiple soccer stadiums (OK, I'm not sure about Tokyo and Lagos and Sydney). I mean London has 22 soccer stadiums within city limits.

And of course, none of those cities have an NFL team, so having an NFL stadium would be silly.


Poor London and Paris, struggling on despite the burden of not having an NFL team or NFL stadium...
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:10     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling.
Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?


Landover is in the middle of nowhere and incredibly inaccessible. Dumb argument.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:08     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


All of those cities have multiple soccer stadiums (OK, I'm not sure about Tokyo and Lagos and Sydney). I mean London has 22 soccer stadiums within city limits.

And of course, none of those cities have an NFL team, so having an NFL stadium would be silly.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:07     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



No one gives a fck about your tourism hobby.


So you would rather have a huge opportunity go away because your broke ass hates billionaires?

Sounds like it will happen so deal with it.

It will increase revenue for the area, make it safer and increase property values in a depressed part of the city. Wins all around.


You mean like it did for Landover?
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:06     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


What a stupid comment. Why does it matter if it’s a nfl stadium or cricket stadium?

The NFL is one of the largest revenue streams for sports/advertisements.


That doesn't mean the host city gets a dime of it
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2023 13:05     Subject: Re:New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:RFK! RFK!

World class cities have sports venues. Why would we not want DC to become a world class city?

This will dramatically benefit NE/SE DC over the long term.

Nats park has been one of the biggest changes to the city. The area was foul before, now it is absolutely bustling. Nats park is a fantastic baseball experience -- i've been to every baseball stadium in the US.



DC has sports venues - as you yourself said.

There are plenty of world class cities that don't have NFL stadiums, for example London, Paris, Tokyo, Mexico City, Lagos, Sydney, Buenos Aires...


What a stupid comment. Why does it matter if it’s a nfl stadium or cricket stadium?

The NFL is one of the largest revenue streams for sports/advertisements.


Ask yourself that. DC already has sports venues. Why does it need specifically an NFL stadium?