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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

PP here. My God. Do you truly only think my only choices were pregnancy or hormonal birth control?

Wow. You really are dim.

No, but you apparently think we can't tell women than pregnancy is a higher risk factor for clots than OCP, because they won't be able to figure out that there are other options.

Give them some credit. Some women can't tolerate or don't want other options, and the pill is safer than pregnancy. Stop hiding that from them for your own political agenda.

Yes. I just have to roll my eyes at some of the hysteria here against the pill. If it wasn't right for you, nobody's forcing you to take it. But stop the nonsense that it kills every woman's sex drive.

I don’t see anyone saying “it kills every woman’s sex drive.” I see people pointing out it has many drawbacks that people call you hysterical for calling out.

Did that happen in this thread, or were you just triggered by past trauma?

…yes in the comment I’m quoting.

I will fight for the right for any woman to get the pill, but I will never take it again. Over the years I have tried several, and all killed my libido, and one made me suicidal. Hormonal medication doesn’t work for me. It’s not “right wing lies” that some people experience these side effects. Several of my friends also experienced the loss of libido - we joke about how it works is that it makes you never want to have sex.

Everyone is different. We need options and no government should be forcing medical decisions. So bring on the pill.

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

It's not like the only choice is using birth control pills or getting pregnancy and continuing a full term pregnancy. There are other methods for birth control and women can be advised about all of the advantages and disadvantages. I think the pill caused depression and headaches for me, but it was also the only thing that helped with acne in my 20's.

Of course. But it is more of a risk to be pregnant than to be on the pill. If you don't understand or acknowledge that, then you are promoting misinformation and not allowing women full autonomy. That is why people who prescribe should be going through these benefits and risks.

A lot of women still want the pill, and that actually is a safer option than getting pregnant.

Yes but you keep acting like the only choices are pill or pregnancy. Thats what people are trying to move away from. That there are more than those two choices. They want the pill because its conveyed as the easiest and most reliable method.

It is. It is also affordable. I like my IUD with HORMONES even better, but I could only afford it with insurance.

All this calendar garbage is not easy and if you are off a smidgen, you have an unwanted pregnancy. It also takes intense buy in from a partner.

Again, so many women discount life before the pill, when life was a nightmare for women who didn't want children.

Am I not a woman now? Not taking the pill and ALSO not having more children?

There are some social issues that you're not seeming to include as factors as well. Marital rape wasn't even considered a thing during the times that you're talking about. There was also no morningafter pill.

Birth control is absolutely a wonderful thing no one here is arguing that what we are arguing is that the pill is the only viable option and or that it is without risk and or side effects. I can honestly say that multiple gynecologists have insisted that it's all in my head that oral birth control makes me feel weird. I'll also state that I've had an IUD and it caused me to have ovarian cysts. I got it removed and the cysts went away.
I think this is also more of a reckoning with women not just being willing to say my only options are oral birth control or multiple pregnancies.

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

It's not like the only choice is using birth control pills or getting pregnancy and continuing a full term pregnancy. There are other methods for birth control and women can be advised about all of the advantages and disadvantages. I think the pill caused depression and headaches for me, but it was also the only thing that helped with acne in my 20's.

Of course. But it is more of a risk to be pregnant than to be on the pill. If you don't understand or acknowledge that, then you are promoting misinformation and not allowing women full autonomy. That is why people who prescribe should be going through these benefits and risks.

A lot of women still want the pill, and that actually is a safer option than getting pregnant.

Yes but you keep acting like the only choices are pill or pregnancy. Thats what people are trying to move away from. That there are more than those two choices. They want the pill because its conveyed as the easiest and most reliable method.

It is. It is also affordable. I like my IUD with HORMONES even better, but I could only afford it with insurance.

All this calendar garbage is not easy and if you are off a smidgen, you have an unwanted pregnancy. It also takes intense buy in from a partner.

Again, so many women discount life before the pill, when life was a nightmare for women who didn't want children.

Am I not a woman now? Not taking the pill and ALSO not having more children?

There are some social issues that you're not seeming to include as factors as well. Marital rape wasn't even considered a thing during the times that you're talking about. There was also no morningafter pill.

Birth control is absolutely a wonderful thing no one here is arguing that what we are arguing is that the pill is the only viable option and or that it is without risk and or side effects. I can honestly say that multiple gynecologists have insisted that it's all in my head that oral birth control makes me feel weird. I'll also state that I've had an IUD and it caused me to have ovarian cysts. I got it removed and the cysts went away.
I think this is also more of a reckoning with women not just being willing to say my only options are oral birth control or multiple pregnancies.

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

PP here. My God. Do you truly only think my only choices were pregnancy or hormonal birth control?

Wow. You really are dim.

No, but you apparently think we can't tell women than pregnancy is a higher risk factor for clots than OCP, because they won't be able to figure out that there are other options.

Give them some credit. Some women can't tolerate or don't want other options, and the pill is safer than pregnancy. Stop hiding that from them for your own political agenda.

Yes. I just have to roll my eyes at some of the hysteria here against the pill. If it wasn't right for you, nobody's forcing you to take it. But stop the nonsense that it kills every woman's sex drive.

Oh, I see the problem. You can’t read. That’s too bad.

Nobody here has said once that the pill kills every woman’s sex drive. And if you think that was said, find the exact quote for me, thanks.

Honestly. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

PP here. My God. Do you truly only think my only choices were pregnancy or hormonal birth control?

Wow. You really are dim.

No, but you apparently think we can't tell women than pregnancy is a higher risk factor for clots than OCP, because they won't be able to figure out that there are other options.

Give them some credit. Some women can't tolerate or don't want other options, and the pill is safer than pregnancy. Stop hiding that from them for your own political agenda.

Yes. I just have to roll my eyes at some of the hysteria here against the pill. If it wasn't right for you, nobody's forcing you to take it. But stop the nonsense that it kills every woman's sex drive.

I don’t see anyone saying “it kills every woman’s sex drive.” I see people pointing out it has many drawbacks that people call you hysterical for calling out.

Did that happen in this thread, or were you just triggered by past trauma?

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

PP here. My God. Do you truly only think my only choices were pregnancy or hormonal birth control?

Wow. You really are dim.

No, but you apparently think we can't tell women than pregnancy is a higher risk factor for clots than OCP, because they won't be able to figure out that there are other options.

Give them some credit. Some women can't tolerate or don't want other options, and the pill is safer than pregnancy. Stop hiding that from them for your own political agenda.

Yes. I just have to roll my eyes at some of the hysteria here against the pill. If it wasn't right for you, nobody's forcing you to take it. But stop the nonsense that it kills every woman's sex drive.

I don’t see anyone saying “it kills every woman’s sex drive.” I see people pointing out it has many drawbacks that people call you hysterical for calling out.

https://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/soy-may-turn-on-genes-linked-to-cancer

Soy can turn on certain genes prompting breast cancer to grow.

I have BC in my family tree and my doctor suggested I avoid soy.

Pretty easy, so I’m doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

It's not like the only choice is using birth control pills or getting pregnancy and continuing a full term pregnancy. There are other methods for birth control and women can be advised about all of the advantages and disadvantages. I think the pill caused depression and headaches for me, but it was also the only thing that helped with acne in my 20's.

Of course. But it is more of a risk to be pregnant than to be on the pill. If you don't understand or acknowledge that, then you are promoting misinformation and not allowing women full autonomy. That is why people who prescribe should be going through these benefits and risks.

A lot of women still want the pill, and that actually is a safer option than getting pregnant.

NP. I agree that you are not the best spokesperson for bcp.

Women today are no longer faced with multiple unplanned pregnancies. The choice is not between hormonal birth control or 6-10 children. We are well below replacement rate, there are many options for birth control that many different women use.

The fact that the society is below “replacement rate” has nothing to do with anyone’s personal decisions about bc unless you are some kind of maternalist nutter. Ugh.

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

PP here. My God. Do you truly only think my only choices were pregnancy or hormonal birth control?

Wow. You really are dim.

No, but you apparently think we can't tell women than pregnancy is a higher risk factor for clots than OCP, because they won't be able to figure out that there are other options.

Give them some credit. Some women can't tolerate or don't want other options, and the pill is safer than pregnancy. Stop hiding that from them for your own political agenda.

Yes. I just have to roll my eyes at some of the hysteria here against the pill. If it wasn't right for you, nobody's forcing you to take it. But stop the nonsense that it kills every woman's sex drive.

Countdown until someone name-calls you "dim" because they don't have any real answer in 3 ... 2 ...1 ...

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been you when I was young. That’s before I learned I have a genetic blood clotting disorder and my mom almost died of a blood clot, and the hematologists warned me that I could never use hormonal BC again. One of them, a woman, told me she was angry about how many young women with clots she saw.

These aren’t risk-free. And it is not some conservative conspiracy to say that.

DP. I'm glad you found out, and I'm glad you have alternative options.

But before you knew about your inherited thrombophilia, you know what would have been a greater risk to you for forming clots than BCP? Pregnancy.

What a condescending and unnecessary response. Ugly.

But notably not untrue.

I’m the PP who posted about my blood clotting disorder. The PPs post about pregnancy suggests she has quite a dim understanding of causality. I’m not really convinced she is the best spokesperson for hormonal birth control, truth be told.

Pregnancy is a higher risk factor for blood clots than OCP. That is just medical facts. If you don't know that, then I'm afraid you have a rather dim understanding of how this works -- and why are you offering advice?

To put the risk of developing a blood clot from a birth control pill into perspective: The risk of blood clots is higher when using any birth control pills than not using them, but still remains lower than the risk of developing blood clots in pregnancy and in the postpartum period.

FDA Drug Safety Communication: Updated information about the risk of blood clots in women taking birth control pills containing drospirenone
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-drug-safety-communication-updated-information-about-risk-blood-clots-women-taking-birth-control

People use contraceptives for a number of reasons, including to regulate their periods, to help balance their moods, to reduce acne and to eliminate menstrual cramps. Of course, most people who take CHC do so to stop them getting pregnant - and pregnancy itself entails a far higher blood clot risk than that associated with combined hormonal contraceptives.

Does the contraceptive pill increase your risk of blood clots?
https://patient.info/news-and-features/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-your-risk-of-blood-clots

PP here. My God. Do you truly only think my only choices were pregnancy or hormonal birth control?

Wow. You really are dim.

No, but you apparently think we can't tell women than pregnancy is a higher risk factor for clots than OCP, because they won't be able to figure out that there are other options.

Give them some credit. Some women can't tolerate or don't want other options, and the pill is safer than pregnancy. Stop hiding that from them for your own political agenda.

Yes. I just have to roll my eyes at some of the hysteria here against the pill. If it wasn't right for you, nobody's forcing you to take it. But stop the nonsense that it kills every woman's sex drive.