Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:19
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where do you live? And in which century?
If PP were from a previous century he’d know having kids in your 40s is incredibly common. How do you think all those women had 12 kids?
I wish people would stop throwing this out as if that wasn’t grandma’s 3rd-12th child not her first in her forties. There is a huge difference between already proven fertility in years post 35 within strict monogamy from never-been-pregnant-before post 35 and years of multiple sexual partners.
It’s not only incredibly cavalier to advise young women to wait so late on purpose, it’s also callous to those of us in the devastation of infertility. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
“Within strict monogamy” lmao what are you talking about there have always been bastard children
Most people’s grandparents don’t have bastard children. My grandfather wasn’t the wealthy King of France, he was a postman and a devout Christian. So FOH.
Even taking your premise as fact (it’s not), strict monogamy would have been expected on the part of the married woman in almost every instance.
Men spread their seed far & wide, sis.
You are so ideologically dug in that you’re missing the point, sis. Having your 4th child in your 40s is not the same as trying to have your 1st in your 40s, point blank period, and you’re lying if you say it’s just NBD like grandma did.
The reason why women had kids into their 40s back then is because they didn’t have reliable birth control. It has nothing to do with how many sexual partners they had or when they started TTC. How is this news to you?
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:16
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Women’s fertility does decline sooner but way later than people in here are saying—at least in the sense of a meaningful decline that would interfere with having a family. Starting after 35 is not a big deal at all.
I understand that you may have a different perspective on the optimal age to start trying for children. However, it is important to provide information based on scientific research and medical consensus.
The general recommendation from medical professionals and fertility experts is to consider family planning earlier in life, ideally before the age of 30, in order to maximize the chances of achieving desired family goals. This recommendation takes into account the biological realities of fertility decline and the potential challenges that can arise with advancing age.
Female fertility starts to decline significantly after the age of 35. As women age, the quantity and quality of eggs decrease, making it more challenging to conceive naturally and increasing the risk of complications during pregnancy. This decline is due to a combination of factors, including a decrease in the number of eggs and an increase in chromosomal abnormalities.
While it is true that women can still conceive and have healthy pregnancies after the age of 35, the chances of conception and successful pregnancy decrease with age. Fertility treatments, such as in vitro fertilization (IVF), can help overcome some of these challenges, but they do not eliminate the impact of age on fertility entirely.
By starting the journey towards parenthood earlier, individuals may have more time to explore natural conception options and potentially avoid or minimize the need for assisted reproductive technologies. Additionally, it allows for a higher likelihood of conceiving with their own eggs, which tend to be of better quality and have lower chances of chromosomal abnormalities compared to eggs retrieved at an older age.
It is important to note that every person's fertility journey is unique, and individual circumstances may vary. Consulting with healthcare professionals or fertility specialists can provide personalized guidance based on specific factors such as medical history, reproductive health, and family goals.
Understanding the impact of age on fertility and considering family planning earlier can increase the chances of achieving reproductive goals and help individuals make informed decisions about their future. It is always beneficial to have open discussions with healthcare professionals to receive tailored advice that aligns with your needs and aspirations.
If you have further questions or concerns, I encourage you to seek advice from medical professionals who specialize in reproductive health and fertility.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:16
Subject: Re:married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better to struggle TTC than to settle down too early with a mediocre man.
Your odds of finding a perfect man actually go down and you may have to eventually settle for someone even more mediocre.
You never *have* to settle.
okay keep calling men mediocre and they keep calling women mediocre
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:15
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where do you live? And in which century?
If PP were from a previous century he’d know having kids in your 40s is incredibly common. How do you think all those women had 12 kids?
I wish people would stop throwing this out as if that wasn’t grandma’s 3rd-12th child not her first in her forties. There is a huge difference between already proven fertility in years post 35 within strict monogamy from never-been-pregnant-before post 35 and years of multiple sexual partners.
It’s not only incredibly cavalier to advise young women to wait so late on purpose, it’s also callous to those of us in the devastation of infertility. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
“Within strict monogamy” lmao what are you talking about there have always been bastard children
Most people’s grandparents don’t have bastard children. My grandfather wasn’t the wealthy King of France, he was a postman and a devout Christian. So FOH.
Even taking your premise as fact (it’s not), strict monogamy would have been expected on the part of the married woman in almost every instance.
Men spread their seed far & wide, sis.
You are so ideologically dug in that you’re missing the point, sis. Having your 4th child in your 40s is not the same as trying to have your 1st in your 40s, point blank period, and you’re lying if you say it’s just NBD like grandma did.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:14
Subject: Re:married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better to struggle TTC than to settle down too early with a mediocre man.
Your odds of finding a perfect man actually go down and you may have to eventually settle for someone even more mediocre.
You never *have* to settle.
I understand your concerns about potentially being left childless and alone. It is natural to desire companionship and a fulfilling family life. However, it is important to remember that the decision to settle down and start a family should be based on various factors, including personal values, emotional compatibility, and the desire for parenthood.
While finding a compatible partner is important, it is crucial to approach this matter with a balanced perspective. Settling down too early or with someone who may not be the right fit for a long-term relationship can potentially lead to dissatisfaction and strain in the future.
At the same time, it is important to recognize the potential challenges associated with fertility and the limitations that age can impose on the ability to conceive naturally. Finding the right partner to embark on the journey of parenthood is indeed important for many individuals, but it is equally important to be aware of the biological realities and to align expectations accordingly.
It is worth mentioning that there are various paths to parenthood, including adoption, fostering, or considering alternative family structures. These options can provide fulfilling experiences and the opportunity to create a loving and nurturing environment for a child, even without a biological connection.
Furthermore, leading a childless life does not necessarily equate to being alone or without companionship. Many individuals find fulfillment and joy in meaningful relationships, friendships, and connections within their communities. Pets, such as cats or dogs, can also bring immense companionship and happiness into one's life.
Ultimately, the decision to settle down, have children, or live a childless life is deeply personal. It is important to consider individual circumstances, values, and desires, while also being open to different possibilities and the potential for a fulfilling and joyful life, regardless of the chosen path.
If you have any further concerns or questions, I encourage you to seek guidance from trusted friends, family members, or professionals who can provide support and help you navigate this decision-making process.
Wishing you clarity and happiness in all aspects of your life.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:14
Subject: married by 30
Women’s fertility does decline sooner but way later than people in here are saying—at least in the sense of a meaningful decline that would interfere with having a family. Starting after 35 is not a big deal at all.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:12
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Female fertility generally starts to decline after the age of 30, with a more significant decline occurring in the mid-30s. As a woman ages, the quantity and quality of eggs decrease, making it more challenging to conceive naturally and increasing the risk of chromosomal abnormalities. Consequently, the chances of conceiving and maintaining a healthy pregnancy decrease as women get older.
While male fertility tends to remain relatively stable until around the age of 50 or later, it is important to acknowledge that advanced paternal age can have some impact on reproductive outcomes. Older fathers may have a slightly higher risk of certain genetic disorders and an increased likelihood of certain health conditions in their offspring. Nevertheless, the overall impact on fertility and pregnancy outcomes is typically less significant compared to advanced maternal age.
It is essential to consider both female and male factors when planning for a family. Finding a suitable partner and considering family planning earlier in life, ideally before the age of 30 for women, can increase the likelihood of achieving desired family goals. However, individual circumstances, personal choices, and relationship dynamics may influence the timing of starting a family. It is important to make informed decisions that align with your values and individual situation.
In addition to the timing of starting a family, it is worth noting that egg freezing, while an option for some women, is not a guarantee of future pregnancy success. The success of using frozen eggs depends on various factors, including the woman's age at the time of egg freezing, the quality of the eggs, and the overall reproductive health of the woman at the time of attempting pregnancy. While egg freezing can provide an opportunity to preserve fertility options, it is important to discuss the potential success rates and limitations with a fertility specialist.
While stories of celebrities or hearing about someone's grandmother having a successful pregnancy at an older age may be inspiring, it is crucial to remember that these cases do not reflect the general population's experiences. Such stories often involve unique circumstances, access to advanced fertility treatments, or exceptional physiological factors. Relying solely on anecdotal experiences can lead to unrealistic expectations and may not provide an accurate picture of the statistical realities and potential challenges associated with fertility and pregnancy at older ages.
To gain a clear understanding of your specific fertility potential and available options, I encourage you to consult with a healthcare professional or fertility specialist. They can provide personalized advice, conduct necessary evaluations, and discuss any concerns you may have regarding conception, pregnancy, and fertility preservation.
Remember, making informed decisions about family planning based on accurate information, professional guidance, and realistic expectations is crucial. Open and honest discussions with healthcare professionals can help you navigate the complexities of fertility and make decisions that are best suited to your individual circumstances.
Wishing you the best in your journey toward parenthood.
Chatgpt
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:12
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where do you live? And in which century?
If PP were from a previous century he’d know having kids in your 40s is incredibly common. How do you think all those women had 12 kids?
I wish people would stop throwing this out as if that wasn’t grandma’s 3rd-12th child not her first in her forties. There is a huge difference between already proven fertility in years post 35 within strict monogamy from never-been-pregnant-before post 35 and years of multiple sexual partners.
It’s not only incredibly cavalier to advise young women to wait so late on purpose, it’s also callous to those of us in the devastation of infertility. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
“Within strict monogamy” lmao what are you talking about there have always been bastard children
Most people’s grandparents don’t have bastard children. My grandfather wasn’t the wealthy King of France, he was a postman and a devout Christian. So FOH.
Even taking your premise as fact (it’s not), strict monogamy would have been expected on the part of the married woman in almost every instance.
Men spread their seed far & wide, sis.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:10
Subject: married by 30
Female fertility generally starts to decline after the age of 30, with a more significant decline occurring in the mid-30s. As a woman ages, the quantity and quality of eggs decrease, making it more challenging to conceive naturally and increasing the risk of chromosomal abnormalities. Consequently, the chances of conceiving and maintaining a healthy pregnancy decrease as women get older.
While male fertility tends to remain relatively stable until around the age of 50 or later, it is important to acknowledge that advanced paternal age can have some impact on reproductive outcomes. Older fathers may have a slightly higher risk of certain genetic disorders and an increased likelihood of certain health conditions in their offspring. Nevertheless, the overall impact on fertility and pregnancy outcomes is typically less significant compared to advanced maternal age.
It is essential to consider both female and male factors when planning for a family. Finding a suitable partner and considering family planning earlier in life, ideally before the age of 30 for women, can increase the likelihood of achieving desired family goals. However, individual circumstances, personal choices, and relationship dynamics may influence the timing of starting a family. It is important to make informed decisions that align with your values and individual situation.
In addition to the timing of starting a family, it is worth noting that egg freezing, while an option for some women, is not a guarantee of future pregnancy success. The success of using frozen eggs depends on various factors, including the woman's age at the time of egg freezing, the quality of the eggs, and the overall reproductive health of the woman at the time of attempting pregnancy. While egg freezing can provide an opportunity to preserve fertility options, it is important to discuss the potential success rates and limitations with a fertility specialist.
While stories of celebrities or hearing about someone's grandmother having a successful pregnancy at an older age may be inspiring, it is crucial to remember that these cases do not reflect the general population's experiences. Such stories often involve unique circumstances, access to advanced fertility treatments, or exceptional physiological factors. Relying solely on anecdotal experiences can lead to unrealistic expectations and may not provide an accurate picture of the statistical realities and potential challenges associated with fertility and pregnancy at older ages.
To gain a clear understanding of your specific fertility potential and available options, I encourage you to consult with a healthcare professional or fertility specialist. They can provide personalized advice, conduct necessary evaluations, and discuss any concerns you may have regarding conception, pregnancy, and fertility preservation.
Remember, making informed decisions about family planning based on accurate information, professional guidance, and realistic expectations is crucial. Open and honest discussions with healthcare professionals can help you navigate the complexities of fertility and make decisions that are best suited to your individual circumstances.
Wishing you the best in your journey toward parenthood.
While male fertility tends to remain relatively stable until around the age of 50 or later, it is important to acknowledge that advanced paternal age can have some impact on reproductive outcomes. Older fathers may have a slightly higher risk of certain genetic disorders and an increased likelihood of certain health conditions in their offspring. Nevertheless, the overall impact on fertility and pregnancy outcomes is typically less significant compared to advanced maternal age.
It is essential to consider both female and male factors when planning for a family. Finding a suitable partner and considering family planning earlier in life, ideally before the age of 30 for women, can increase the likelihood of achieving desired family goals. However, individual circumstances, personal choices, and relationship dynamics may influence the timing of starting a family. It is important to make informed decisions that align with your values and individual situation.
In addition to the timing of starting a family, it is worth noting that egg freezing, while an option for some women, is not a guarantee of future pregnancy success. The success of using frozen eggs depends on various factors, including the woman's age at the time of egg freezing, the quality of the eggs, and the overall reproductive health of the woman at the time of attempting pregnancy. While egg freezing can provide an opportunity to preserve fertility options, it is important to discuss the potential success rates and limitations with a fertility specialist.
While stories of celebrities or hearing about someone's grandmother having a successful pregnancy at an older age may be inspiring, it is crucial to remember that these cases do not reflect the general population's experiences. Such stories often involve unique circumstances, access to advanced fertility treatments, or exceptional physiological factors. Relying solely on anecdotal experiences can lead to unrealistic expectations and may not provide an accurate picture of the statistical realities and potential challenges associated with fertility and pregnancy at older ages.
To gain a clear understanding of your specific fertility potential and available options, I encourage you to consult with a healthcare professional or fertility specialist. They can provide personalized advice, conduct necessary evaluations, and discuss any concerns you may have regarding conception, pregnancy, and fertility preservation.
Remember, making informed decisions about family planning based on accurate information, professional guidance, and realistic expectations is crucial. Open and honest discussions with healthcare professionals can help you navigate the complexities of fertility and make decisions that are best suited to your individual circumstances.
Wishing you the best in your journey toward parenthood.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:07
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where do you live? And in which century?
If PP were from a previous century he’d know having kids in your 40s is incredibly common. How do you think all those women had 12 kids?
I wish people would stop throwing this out as if that wasn’t grandma’s 3rd-12th child not her first in her forties. There is a huge difference between already proven fertility in years post 35 within strict monogamy from never-been-pregnant-before post 35 and years of multiple sexual partners.
It’s not only incredibly cavalier to advise young women to wait so late on purpose, it’s also callous to those of us in the devastation of infertility. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
“Within strict monogamy” lmao what are you talking about there have always been bastard children
Most people’s grandparents don’t have bastard children. My grandfather wasn’t the wealthy King of France, he was a postman and a devout Christian. So FOH.
Even taking your premise as fact (it’s not), strict monogamy would have been expected on the part of the married woman in almost every instance.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:06
Subject: Re:married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Better to struggle TTC than to settle down too early with a mediocre man.
Your odds of finding a perfect man actually go down and you may have to eventually settle for someone even more mediocre.
You never *have* to settle.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:06
Subject: Re:married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Better to struggle TTC than to settle down too early with a mediocre man.
Your odds of finding a perfect man actually go down and you may have to eventually settle for someone even more mediocre.
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:04
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where do you live? And in which century?
If PP were from a previous century he’d know having kids in your 40s is incredibly common. How do you think all those women had 12 kids?
I wish people would stop throwing this out as if that wasn’t grandma’s 3rd-12th child not her first in her forties. There is a huge difference between already proven fertility in years post 35 within strict monogamy from never-been-pregnant-before post 35 and years of multiple sexual partners.
It’s not only incredibly cavalier to advise young women to wait so late on purpose, it’s also callous to those of us in the devastation of infertility. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
Bahaha no
That is not true & makes 0 difference in fertility
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:03
Subject: married by 30
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Where do you live? And in which century?
If PP were from a previous century he’d know having kids in your 40s is incredibly common. How do you think all those women had 12 kids?
I wish people would stop throwing this out as if that wasn’t grandma’s 3rd-12th child not her first in her forties. There is a huge difference between already proven fertility in years post 35 within strict monogamy from never-been-pregnant-before post 35 and years of multiple sexual partners.
It’s not only incredibly cavalier to advise young women to wait so late on purpose, it’s also callous to those of us in the devastation of infertility. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
“Within strict monogamy” lmao what are you talking about there have always been bastard children
Anonymous
06/07/2023 14:03
Subject: married by 30
Just freeze eggs or embryos and live your life.