Go D3 or club or drop the scholarship. The evidence is staring you in the face

STEM majors require a lot of fixed hour classes and lab time that the D1 sport will inevitably get in the way of. D1 sports thinks academics molds to fill in the gaps of its schedule and the STEM major dept will think the same thing. Tough place for a student to be in between.

I am suprised you didn't already realize that once you become a D1 athlete you are no longer in control of your time. Everything is dictated by the sport. If your practice is 2-5 in the afternoon then you can't have a class at that time for instance. D1 sports is not something you fit in at college. It is your primary responsibility and school is 2nd. That is why athletes choose D3 schools. It sounds like you do not understand what you signed up for.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster sounds like they are doing their homework to understand reality as opposed to a fantasy presented by the coach that stem degrees are able to be pursued and that lots of athletes do so.

Nobody said lots of athletes do it, not even the coach.

Lots of non athlete STEM majors also change degrees.

If the student wants to do it and is smart enough they can do it.

But the reality is OPs son might find STEM in college too hard, athlete or not.

This was flatly not true at Yale for physics. Profs said “Miss labs and you fail.” Coach said “Miss practice or a game and you’re off the team.” That’s the simple reality at many schools.

Some can maybe manage it and some can not. Always prioritize the major over the sport.

Most college coached will be very honest: sports, academic, a social life
Pick 2
You will certainly not have time for more than 2

Anonymous wrote:I have known people who were admitted to UVa in Engineering and had a full athletic scholarship. Coaches leaned hard on them throughout 1st semester over missing practices to attend mandatory lab classes. In the end, each transferred into Arts & Sciences and picked an easy major there. None ended up in professional sports, btw.

Engineering or Nursing are different enough that its very very hard to play non-club sports and still graduate.

I know two UVA football players who were in the E school. They did not get much playing time so I have no idea if perhaps the coaches let them miss a practice here or there, or (more likely) if professors made allowances for them.

In any case, they did it. But - they had to give up having any semblance of a social life. It was football study sleep. Doesn’t seem that fun to me, especially since they weren’t players who were good enough to go pro etc. and they clearly weren’t depending on football for life. It seemed lonely; the other players were much more of a community. But they did finish both their degrees and were on the team for at least 3 years. Lost track of them toward the end. I assume they needed the scholarship money. No way I would do it if you had the money saved up.

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Anonymous wrote:Golf?

Yep 6-7 players on team gotta be it

I’m guessing cross country. Regardless of sport, have your kid try balancing both. If it’s too much, academics come first. But he shouldn’t quit the team before he even starts.

One of the very top XC/TF high school girls in the country did that a few years ago. Got admission to an Ivy & never ran a step again.

Has anyone read the book What Made Maddy Run: The Secret Struggles and Tragic Death of an All-American Teen? It may not be that easy for everyone to quit a team.

“The heartbreaking story of college athlete Madison Holleran, whose life and death by suicide reveal the struggle of young people suffering from mental illness today in this #1 New York Times Sports and Fitness bestseller.

“If you scrolled through the Instagram feed of 19-year-old Maddy Holleran, you would see a perfect life: a freshman at an Ivy League school, recruited for the track team, who was also beautiful, popular, and fiercely intelligent. This was a girl who succeeded at everything she tried, and who was only getting started. But when Maddy began her long-awaited college career, her parents noticed something changed. Previously indefatigable Maddy became withdrawn, and her thoughts centered on how she could change her life. In spite of thousands of hours of practice and study, she contemplated transferring from the school that had once been her dream….”

Social isolation absolutely happens, happened to my college roommate while at HYP. She was recruited for a small sports team. Basically, you spend all your time with the team for the first year/two, when it gets too hard to balance with major and you quit for a reason other than a career ending injury, you can be completely shut out from that group because it looks really bad to admissions when recruits quit (e.g. less likely spots will be given to those recruits for that sport in the future, which tanks the sport). By the time you quit, those 7-10 people on the team know lots of other students and can reputation smear or socially ice you out. You can make other friends, but it’s still tough. That’s why I recommended keeping active social circles outside of the sport.

Anonymous wrote:Went to Duke on athletic scholarship 40 years ago. The coach and the AD (not friendly to athletes generally) absolutely supported stem degrees, even if labs interfered with practice. The department would use its influence to get another scheduled class if available, but if the lab was needed, it was needed, even if an athlete arrived at practice late. I have no idea what happens today. There was a lot not to like at Duke, but the focus on academics in the athletic department was very desirable. A credit to the school.

Damn you are one old wippersnapper

Went to Duke on athletic scholarship 40 years ago. The coach and the AD (not friendly to athletes generally) absolutely supported stem degrees, even if labs interfered with practice. The department would use its influence to get another scheduled class if available, but if the lab was needed, it was needed, even if an athlete arrived at practice late. I have no idea what happens today. There was a lot not to like at Duke, but the focus on academics in the athletic department was very desirable. A credit to the school.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster sounds like they are doing their homework to understand reality as opposed to a fantasy presented by the coach that stem degrees are able to be pursued and that lots of athletes do so.

I see tons of stem degrees pursued by athletes at top schools all the time.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:This poster sounds like they are doing their homework to understand reality as opposed to a fantasy presented by the coach that stem degrees are able to be pursued and that lots of athletes do so.

Nobody said lots of athletes do it, not even the coach.

Lots of non athlete STEM majors also change degrees.

If the student wants to do it and is smart enough they can do it.

But the reality is OPs son might find STEM in college too hard, athlete or not.

This was flatly not true at Yale for physics. Profs said “Miss labs and you fail.” Coach said “Miss practice or a game and you’re off the team.” That’s the simple reality at many schools.

No that is not the reality.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster sounds like they are doing their homework to understand reality as opposed to a fantasy presented by the coach that stem degrees are able to be pursued and that lots of athletes do so.

Nobody said lots of athletes do it, not even the coach.

Lots of non athlete STEM majors also change degrees.

If the student wants to do it and is smart enough they can do it.

But the reality is OPs son might find STEM in college too hard, athlete or not.

This was flatly not true at Yale for physics. Profs said “Miss labs and you fail.” Coach said “Miss practice or a game and you’re off the team.” That’s the simple reality at many schools.

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Anonymous wrote:This poster sounds like they are doing their homework to understand reality as opposed to a fantasy presented by the coach that stem degrees are able to be pursued and that lots of athletes do so.

I see tons of stem degrees pursued by athletes at top schools all the time.

Source?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this men's golf?

If so, it would pose an interesting dilemma as "golf" is one of the best business majors for getting a great job.

The student is not a business major. This discussion is about stem majors and athletes.