Anonymous wrote:IDK, but sounds like you have a terrible relationship with your family. If my parents ever had a need, I would 100% take them into my home and take care of them. Right now they live with my brother. In our culture we take care of our elders. I have also told my kids they can always come back to me for help. It might be that they need an extra push to be more productive and get off video games and get a real job, but I'm not there yet with my kids. I will always have a room for them at my house when they are in need. However, if you're at the point when you feel that "I didn't ask to be born" that doesn't seem like a good place to support their parents. Seems like deeper issues.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:simple
older parents were once/still are productive members of society, by both having jobs and raising children (ie the next generation of productive members of society).
adult children "leeches" have not yet become productive members of society, but they need to.
It’s not always that simple. What about those of us with parents who were never “productive members of society” ie never really had a job and lived off of welfare and assistance from extended family until we were old enough to provide for ourselves.
Then nothing owed to them. But that is an unusual situation and not the norm
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What we need is safe and supportive childcare and eldercare in this world. These are basics, weapons and designer goods aren't. We as a society should be supportive to each other.
Traditionally, family filled those roles.
But when in your 40s, full time job, menopause, demanding kids and also need to look after your parents...
... you get suicidal.
The in-family eldercare has gone the way of the dodo, except in countries where household help is still cheap, or in places so underdeveloped that women are always home.
Anonymous wrote:Saying this “the OP didn't ask to be born. The OP's parents chose to bring them into the world.” screams that you are an immature irrational kid and entirely self-centered.
If adults didn’t keep procreating, population would die out completely. Do you get that?
And if most parents didn’t sacrifice and try their best to raise decent human beings, the world would devolve into complete chaos.
Come back after you raise a kid or 2, or do something else giving to society, and reevaluate your ideas
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Families are united units and things go both ways. Whoever needs it gets help. If the children or siblings need help the family steps in. If the parents or grandparents need help the family steps in.
This^. Nobody takes advantage of others but when one family member needs it, others voluntarily step up. There is no leeching or compulsion, just having each other's back.
It's a nice idea, but as someone who's always on the giving end with family members lately, it sure feels like there is leeching, and I'm starting to feel resentful and it's causing problems in my marriage.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Families are united units and things go both ways. Whoever needs it gets help. If the children or siblings need help the family steps in. If the parents or grandparents need help the family steps in.
This^. Nobody takes advantage of others but when one family member needs it, others voluntarily step up. There is no leeching or compulsion, just having each other's back.
Anonymous wrote:Some of you are too entitled to see the contradiction between
"My parents should not only help me through college, they should also help me in my 20s with rent/car/down payment/wedding."
and
"Mom and dad don't have any retirement savings, that's their fault so why should I help them out?"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You sound like a spoiled 18-24 year old asking this.
Stats show Parents spend approx. $300,000 raising a child until age 18, plus tons more if they pay for college. That is enough.
For this, an adult child should then return the gift and help care for a parent for the last 5-10 years of their life when they become frail and need care. That’s the circle of life.
An adult age 22ish- age 60 shouldn’t need help or be leeching off anyone.
This. Parents spend money on their kids that they could have used to save for retirement, so they have less savings at retirement than if they didn't have kids. Or they could have used the money spent on kids to take great vacations.
Point is, they sacrificed one way or another.
"The kids didn't ask to be born" is a cop-out. If you asked any of these kids I'm certain they'd all say they're glad to be alive. They're also glad their parents put a roof over their heads and fed them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:simple
older parents were once/still are productive members of society, by both having jobs and raising children (ie the next generation of productive members of society).
adult children "leeches" have not yet become productive members of society, but they need to.
It’s not always that simple. What about those of us with parents who were never “productive members of society” ie never really had a job and lived off of welfare and assistance from extended family until we were old enough to provide for ourselves.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:simple
older parents were once/still are productive members of society, by both having jobs and raising children (ie the next generation of productive members of society).
adult children "leeches" have not yet become productive members of society, but they need to.
It’s not always that simple. What about those of us with parents who were never “productive members of society” ie never really had a job and lived off of welfare and assistance from extended family until we were old enough to provide for ourselves.
Anonymous wrote:simple
older parents were once/still are productive members of society, by both having jobs and raising children (ie the next generation of productive members of society).
adult children "leeches" have not yet become productive members of society, but they need to.
Anonymous wrote:Families are united units and things go both ways. Whoever needs it gets help. If the children or siblings need help the family steps in. If the parents or grandparents need help the family steps in.