Anonymous wrote:they only work 180 days a year, and 7 hours a day...........

Our contracts are 195 days and 7.5 hours.

In reality, most teachers work 230+ days, and 9+ hours.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!

I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.

See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.

Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.

In addition to VRS, summertime is really the only perk. And for some, summer and breaks are a financial strain/stressor.

How is it a vacation if you’re working another job? I know not all teachers do, but almost all of the teachers in their 20s do, as well as a decent percentage of the others.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!

I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.

See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.

Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.

Two months off is useless when you don't make enough money to actually enjoy any of it. I work every week in the summer plus I have a second job all year and I still don't make enough to cover my bills.

Anonymous wrote:There are more undergrads that just graduated in elementary Ed.

My intern this year is graduating but she's not going into teaching. She's working for a friend of her family doing bookkeeping and making a lot more than she would as a teacher. She said she wished she had known what teaching was like before committing to the degree.

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Anonymous wrote:3% is a perfectly reasonable COLA.

I think plenty of us would be okay paying teachers more if they were full time, year round. Teachers forget how much time they have off when they’re comparing their salaries. 80k would be 100k if they worked year round and got 3 weeks vacation.

Time off won’t pay my bills. The jobs I can get in the summer don’t fully pay them either.

So get a different job? I missed the part where you were forced into teaching with no way out.

I will. Once my son graduates from college in two years, I plan on going back to school to do........anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!

I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.

See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.

Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.

Do those other 60+ week jobs get compensated considerably more? I’m guessing most do.

And do those other 60+ hour week jobs require you to give 30+ hours of presentations a week to 150 people a day, or can you sit at your desk in a more stress-free manner?

Nobody said you can’t have it hard. Perhaps you do. You also can’t tell teachers that an ***unpaid*** summer is somehow a big enough perk that they should remain silent about the unreasonable and unsustainable expectations during the other 10 months.

Join us if you think that summer is worth it. Seriously. I suspect you know it isn’t a good enough trade-off.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!

I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.

See, it's this crappy attitude on the part of teachers that has burned a lot of goodwill with parents and the public. The endless summer vacations are obviously a HUGE benefit of your job, and yet you frame it in the most miserable way possible by calling it furlough.

Also many other jobs require 12 months of work full of 60 hour weeks if not more. The truly unique thing about teachers compared to other professions is their seemingly endless ability to whine and think that only they have it hard.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

Where do these teachers work? I want endless summer and winter vacations!

I work 10 months full of 60 hour weeks, and then I’m furloughed for two months.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

What are the lavish benefits?

Anonymous wrote:Increasing pay for teachers won’t solve any problems. They are already paid above the market rate when benefits are considered. The problems most teachers face have to do with work load and managing behaviors. More money might make teachers temporarily happy but won’t add any hours to the day. Nothing will improve. Public schools need to fix the way they do schooling or the system needs a complete overhaul. Maybe software learning with teacher support is the way to go. Or perhaps video learning like Khan Academy is the future.

Speaking as a teacher, more money would absolutely solve many of my problems. Seriously. You would never hear a complaint from me again if I was compensated in a manner comparable to others with my level of education and experience. Forget that, I would stop complaining if you just decreased the gap to $0.80 for every dollar of similarly educated professionals.

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

What school do you teach at? You must be a teacher, right? Since it's such a sweet, low stress gig with great compensation and lavish benefits? That's why we have so many people competing for those rare teacher vacancies. School systems practically have to beat applicants off with sticks! Everyone wants to be a teacher!

Anonymous wrote:Increasing pay for teachers won’t solve any problems. They are already paid above the market rate when benefits are considered. The problems most teachers face have to do with work load and managing behaviors. More money might make teachers temporarily happy but won’t add any hours to the day. Nothing will improve. Public schools need to fix the way they do schooling or the system needs a complete overhaul. Maybe software learning with teacher support is the way to go. Or perhaps video learning like Khan Academy is the future.

Might I remind you of the vitriol from DCUM about online learning during covid???!?

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Anonymous wrote:My private sector company is also giving 3%.

I’m sure your salaries are much higher to begin with.

My child's teacher makes $80k+

Ok. Unless they are married, 80,000 doesn’t get you much in this area. Salaries should match COL.

Well, $80,000 is really for working only 9 months of the year once you take out all those endless summer and winter vacations. So $80k/9*12 = $106,666 on an annualized basis. Plus pension plus lavish benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain to me how FCPS think a 3% raise will help retain and recruit talent? This is a shame!
How can we FCPS parents help chance this scenario? Our teachers deserve much better. Shame on our School Board. I am 😤!

So you want to raise taxes? I'm all for it. But you have to be honest with yourself.

My property taxes went up. Didn’t yours?

The rate didn't change, it's your assessment that changed.

Why do you think PP needed to hear that? If the rate went down, but not enough to offset the increased assessments, your taxes went up.

There is plenty of money sloshing around FCPS. It's just not spent wisely, and then Gatehouse piles on other requirements and restrictions that make teaching unpleasant to appease the politicians. It's amazing that not more teachers are leaving.

Increasing pay for teachers won’t solve any problems. They are already paid above the market rate when benefits are considered. The problems most teachers face have to do with work load and managing behaviors. More money might make teachers temporarily happy but won’t add any hours to the day. Nothing will improve. Public schools need to fix the way they do schooling or the system needs a complete overhaul. Maybe software learning with teacher support is the way to go. Or perhaps video learning like Khan Academy is the future.