Anonymous
Post 05/29/2023 09:07     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.


Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.


Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.


Oh please!! Lol. Look at how many schools those three schools send to HYP compared to most private schools…. I’ll wait.


There are better ways to get into HYP that won’t leave permanent damage.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2023 08:35     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

I am one of many (current or former) public school teachers in the area sending my child to private school.

Suffice it to say that we see many many differences other than just class size. And we're sticking with private for the foreseeable future.



Anonymous
Post 05/29/2023 01:38     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Writing
Critical thinking
Creativity
Organization and study skills
In depth math

Have been at a highly ranked public from 1-6th and am appalled by the shallowness of the curriculum. I feel terrible for what my kid has missed.


Also:

Public speaking/presentation skills
Social-emotional kills


This is what stands out most to me, with one K student in private and a PK student in public. My PK student is learning nothing about social-emotional skills. My K student did PK at another public and also learned nothing about social-emotional skills. I really thought no school could go wrong with such a foundational element in the years it really starts. Definitely not the case.


Social emotional skills should be learned at home, modeled at school, and corrected when not used properly. I never expected a school to teach my kid to be nice, share, use their manners, learn how to lose gracefully, etc.


The problem is classmates in public. Nobody is teaching this to them, and it is chaos.


At least someone gets it.
I do expect school to model decency and all of the above. In the same way, I hold myself responsible as well.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2023 01:35     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Writing
Critical thinking
Creativity
Organization and study skills
In depth math

Have been at a highly ranked public from 1-6th and am appalled by the shallowness of the curriculum. I feel terrible for what my kid has missed.


Also:

Public speaking/presentation skills
Social-emotional kills


This is what stands out most to me, with one K student in private and a PK student in public. My PK student is learning nothing about social-emotional skills. My K student did PK at another public and also learned nothing about social-emotional skills. I really thought no school could go wrong with such a foundational element in the years it really starts. Definitely not the case.


Social emotional skills should be learned at home, modeled at school, and corrected when not used properly. I never expected a school to teach my kid to be nice, share, use their manners, learn how to lose gracefully, etc.


Where did I say my children weren't learning said skills at home? My children are fine and learned all that they needed to know at home. However, I do expect a school to still teach and model social-emotional skills as well... because unlike at home, in school they are engaging with many more children from all experiences and backgrounds. Weird that you don't want a school to serve as an extension of what you claim to teach your child when it comes to such basic life skills. So I double down, the public schools my children attended were trash when it came down to children learning anything beyond academics.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 23:36     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

“students” not “schools.”
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 23:29     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.


Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.


Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.


Oh please!! Lol. Look at how many schools those three schools send to HYP compared to most private schools…. I’ll wait.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 20:19     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:Public doesn’t do nearly as good a job teaching kids that if your family is wealthy and/or connected, you can basically act with impunity at the expense of others. Public schools care about “equity” whereas private schools embrace the fact that money and power are all you really need in life.


We live in the smallest house in our neighborhood and go to private, our very wealthy neighbors are mostly at Whitman. I’m not sure how we’d be caring more about equity if we moved to Whitman.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 19:39     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:Public doesn’t do nearly as good a job teaching kids that if your family is wealthy and/or connected, you can basically act with impunity at the expense of others. Public schools care about “equity” whereas private schools embrace the fact that money and power are all you really need in life.


Haha if only that were true.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 19:03     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Public doesn’t do nearly as good a job teaching kids that if your family is wealthy and/or connected, you can basically act with impunity at the expense of others. Public schools care about “equity” whereas private schools embrace the fact that money and power are all you really need in life.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 16:19     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

We switched to private for MS and have been surprised by the eclectic gym classes, this year our DD had synchronized swimming and lacrosse as specialized units, among other things.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 15:04     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.


Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.


Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.


Some parents view life as a never-ending knife fight and want their kids' "education" to be an ongoing training camp for it. I feel sorry for their offspring.


+100
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 14:46     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.


Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.


Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.


Some parents view life as a never-ending knife fight and want their kids' "education" to be an ongoing training camp for it. I feel sorry for their offspring.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 11:19     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.


Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.


Correct, many of us consider these to be awful public schools just more of an academic knife fight than the others.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 11:08     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:Depends where you are. No private school is touching Stuyvesant, Bronx Science or Brooklyn Tech in NYC. There are plenty of great public schools that leave most privates in the dust. I say that as a private school parent.

I will say that these kids often suffer in writing and other areas because many of them have spent years prepping for one test to get into these highly selective high schools and that’s what they know.


Those schools are every kid for themselves. Horrible facilities, too.
Anonymous
Post 05/28/2023 11:05     Subject: What public doesn’t teach

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Writing
Critical thinking
Creativity
Organization and study skills
In depth math

Have been at a highly ranked public from 1-6th and am appalled by the shallowness of the curriculum. I feel terrible for what my kid has missed.


Also:

Public speaking/presentation skills
Social-emotional kills


This is what stands out most to me, with one K student in private and a PK student in public. My PK student is learning nothing about social-emotional skills. My K student did PK at another public and also learned nothing about social-emotional skills. I really thought no school could go wrong with such a foundational element in the years it really starts. Definitely not the case.


Social emotional skills should be learned at home, modeled at school, and corrected when not used properly. I never expected a school to teach my kid to be nice, share, use their manners, learn how to lose gracefully, etc.


The problem is classmates in public. Nobody is teaching this to them, and it is chaos.


Filling in a feelings chart every morning really is a waste of time.

My kid literally put the same thing every day and teacher put the same smiley face. And my kid merely copied the example: I feel happy bc I had a big breakfast.

Check and done.