Anonymous wrote:Target and other corporations are the ones out of touch with normal people. How do you think your average person is going to react to tuck friendly swimsuits, Pride onesies for babies, "gender fluid" mugs, and clothing designed by a Satanist. Adidas recently used a male to model a woman's swimsuit and we all know what happened to Budlight after the Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Your normal, average person is turned off by all of this being shoved in our faces especially when kids are being targeted. If you think it is just Republicans think again.

Do you not believe in capitalism? Corporations are based on one thing and one thing alone - making money. Usually by selling something. If it doesn't sell they'll stop production.

Are you a commie who wants to regulate businesses?

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Anonymous wrote:Target and other corporations are the ones out of touch with normal people. How do you think your average person is going to react to tuck friendly swimsuits, Pride onesies for babies, "gender fluid" mugs, and clothing designed by a Satanist. Adidas recently used a male to model a woman's swimsuit and we all know what happened to Budlight after the Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Your normal, average person is turned off by all of this being shoved in our faces especially when kids are being targeted. If you think it is just Republicans think again.

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When these displays are front and center as you enter a store and when items are targeted at children, we notice. We, being "normal" people.

I'm not normal due to a major and visible congenital condition and I say three cheers for us abnormals! You do you and celebrate your "normalness." I'll celebrate my abnormality. Live and let live. I know that's hard for some of you normies to do, but please try. You never know when one of your children or grandchildren is going to be abnormal and then what will you do?

Also, seriously, you are upset about "clothing designed by a Satanist" ??? That is effin hilarious. This is America. We have freedom to worship who and what we want. I guess you don't believe in religious freedom.

No one is making you buy anything. And no one is shoving it in your face. Take a chill pill.

It seems like our political parties both let themselves get taken over by small groups of people advocating for extreme positions that most people do not support. I find the Republican side of that more dangerous overall, though much less likely to ever affect me personally.

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Anonymous wrote:Target and other corporations are the ones out of touch with normal people. How do you think your average person is going to react to tuck friendly swimsuits, Pride onesies for babies, "gender fluid" mugs, and clothing designed by a Satanist. Adidas recently used a male to model a woman's swimsuit and we all know what happened to Budlight after the Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Your normal, average person is turned off by all of this being shoved in our faces especially when kids are being targeted. If you think it is just Republicans think again.

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When these displays are front and center as you enter a store and when items are targeted at children, we notice. We, being "normal" people.

You are far from normal. Normal people ignore things in the store that they don't want to buy. They don't go through the items and see what they can get offended by.

I honestly don't find any of this stuff all that hard to explain to my children

They just go "Oh, ok" and move on about their lives.

People who are different from them do not bother them in the least.

At the end of the day, we are all humans who should be respected as such. No one is better than anyone else.

Anonymous wrote:Target and other corporations are the ones out of touch with normal people. How do you think your average person is going to react to tuck friendly swimsuits, Pride onesies for babies, "gender fluid" mugs, and clothing designed by a Satanist. Adidas recently used a male to model a woman's swimsuit and we all know what happened to Budlight after the Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Your normal, average person is turned off by all of this being shoved in our faces especially when kids are being targeted. If you think it is just Republicans think again.

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When these displays are front and center as you enter a store and when items are targeted at children, we notice. We, being "normal" people.

Anonymous wrote:Target and other corporations are the ones out of touch with normal people. How do you think your average person is going to react to tuck friendly swimsuits, Pride onesies for babies, "gender fluid" mugs, and clothing designed by a Satanist. Adidas recently used a male to model a woman's swimsuit and we all know what happened to Budlight after the Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Your normal, average person is turned off by all of this being shoved in our faces especially when kids are being targeted. If you think it is just Republicans think again.

Thing is "most" people aren't angry about this, they just ignore it and go on their way. When the stuff doesn't sell, corporations will rethink some of this.

Think marketers are watching too much TikTok and not watching enough people go about their day. When things don't sell, they will get the message. No need to make threats and get all angry.

Target and other corporations are the ones out of touch with normal people. How do you think your average person is going to react to tuck friendly swimsuits, Pride onesies for babies, "gender fluid" mugs, and clothing designed by a Satanist. Adidas recently used a male to model a woman's swimsuit and we all know what happened to Budlight after the Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Your normal, average person is turned off by all of this being shoved in our faces especially when kids are being targeted. If you think it is just Republicans think again.

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who in the world thinks a room full of regular people even know who dylan mulvaney is, let alone sitting around stewing about her all day

these culture wars would be hilarious if they weren't so evil

That's what Anheuser Busch thought, and now they are telling their distributors to give the unsold beer to their employees to take home.
They could have kept it but for that freshness dating they introduced some time back.

Yep. And Target says hello too

When corporations give in to threats of mob violence...

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans saying the quiet part out loud, they want a dictatorship.

[insert Roy Kent gif with a forbidden word]

I have to say, there's a lot I hate about Republicans - and their scary, apocalyptic "promises" about what's coming is up there at the top of what I hate most. But it's a big top. Very top-heavy.

Isn't it the Democrats who have been talking about their apocalyptic "promises" concerning climate change? Al Gore said many of the world's coastal cities would be inundated by sea level rise by 2023. Of course, he said that while owing a Tennessee mansion with three people living in it that consumed more power than a small town. Liberal hypocrite.

yes and humans did a lot in the intervening 30 years to help mitigate so instead of 2023 it is now more like 2050, but there is still more to do to try to prepare while also mitigating. Thanks for making the point that we CAN do something about it.

Also in one case we're trying to avoid the catastrophic existential threat - climate change

While in the other, the Rs are positively giddy about a dictator. They know that saying this stuff is creepy, weird, and sort of scary to normies - but those R weirdos love it, themselves.

I guess they love the threat of climate change, too. They're lusting for it. They are such strange and off-putting people.

LOL! Dictator? Forcing people to get vaccinated or lose their jobs? Even when the vaccination is not proven to work?
Forcing schools to close by local Dem School Boards. And, the President supporting those SB and attacking those who criticize. Mandating that Trans women and girls be allowed in women sports? Contrary to public wishes.

Luckily the vaccine has worked and is working. So your scenario is false from the get-go.

People have to get vaccinated all the time. For school (do you not have children or remember when you were a child and had to get vaccinated. As in yes you were forced to either get vaccinated or to go to a different school if you chose not to). Also to travel to certain countries.

I realize R's do not care about the common good or doing the right thing for society's sake. But man. More than 1,000,000,000 people dead. Including relatives of mine from before the vaccine. And I'm willing to bet also relatives and friends of yours.

So yes, if you work in a field like health where you interact with a lot of people and are told you need certain vaccines to be able to go into work, then you will have to choose between getting the vaccine or rejecting it and quitting your job. Lots of jobs have various requirements. If you don't like having requirements for a job then start up your own business.

One Billion people died from Covid? Really?

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example 4,000,000,000000000000 into infinity

who in the world thinks a room full of regular people even know who dylan mulvaney is, let alone sitting around stewing about her all day

these culture wars would be hilarious if they weren't so evil

That's what Anheuser Busch thought, and now they are telling their distributors to give the unsold beer to their employees to take home.
They could have kept it but for that freshness dating they introduced some time back.

Yep. And Target says hello too

When corporations give in to threats of mob violence...

Oh. My. GOD. I'm totally buying this. - trans woman
https://www.target.com/p/16oz-pint-glass-pride/-/A-87043483#lnk=sametab

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Both Republicans and Democrats have issues where they are wildly out of touch with common sentiment. It is something that cuts across party lines.

Glenn Greenwald (I know, I know) recently did a thread about the same concept with respect to the media.

Glenn Greenwald is absolutely right. Not sure what your silly apologist remark is for.

Eh, Greenwald has been wrong often enough that it’s worth flagging.

But I think he is spot-on here. I’ve never in my life perceived such a mismatch between the mainstream media and what ordinary Americans think. The gap is tremendously vast at this point.

It is a self-inflicted wound in any event. When you see histrionics like the below from previously respected media sources, it’s hard to take them seriously. I mean Vanity Fair just looks objectively ridiculous here.

Vanity Fair has been going off the rails for some time now.
This headline could have actually been written by some of the DCUMers here.

It does show the vast gap between the media and ordinary Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans saying the quiet part out loud, they want a dictatorship.

[insert Roy Kent gif with a forbidden word]

I have to say, there's a lot I hate about Republicans - and their scary, apocalyptic "promises" about what's coming is up there at the top of what I hate most. But it's a big top. Very top-heavy.

Isn't it the Democrats who have been talking about their apocalyptic "promises" concerning climate change? Al Gore said many of the world's coastal cities would be inundated by sea level rise by 2023. Of course, he said that while owing a Tennessee mansion with three people living in it that consumed more power than a small town. Liberal hypocrite.

yes and humans did a lot in the intervening 30 years to help mitigate so instead of 2023 it is now more like 2050, but there is still more to do to try to prepare while also mitigating. Thanks for making the point that we CAN do something about it.

Also in one case we're trying to avoid the catastrophic existential threat - climate change

While in the other, the Rs are positively giddy about a dictator. They know that saying this stuff is creepy, weird, and sort of scary to normies - but those R weirdos love it, themselves.

I guess they love the threat of climate change, too. They're lusting for it. They are such strange and off-putting people.

LOL! Dictator? Forcing people to get vaccinated or lose their jobs? Even when the vaccination is not proven to work?
Forcing schools to close by local Dem School Boards. And, the President supporting those SB and attacking those who criticize. Mandating that Trans women and girls be allowed in women sports? Contrary to public wishes.

Luckily the vaccine has worked and is working. So your scenario is false from the get-go.

People have to get vaccinated all the time. For school (do you not have children or remember when you were a child and had to get vaccinated. As in yes you were forced to either get vaccinated or to go to a different school if you chose not to). Also to travel to certain countries.

I realize R's do not care about the common good or doing the right thing for society's sake. But man. More than 1,000,000,000 people dead. Including relatives of mine from before the vaccine. And I'm willing to bet also relatives and friends of yours.

So yes, if you work in a field like health where you interact with a lot of people and are told you need certain vaccines to be able to go into work, then you will have to choose between getting the vaccine or rejecting it and quitting your job. Lots of jobs have various requirements. If you don't like having requirements for a job then start up your own business.

Outside of healthcare, give me one example of an employer demanding to see your MMR or chicken pox vaccination card. Both which by the way confer sterilizing immunity. Something that actually protects the general population.
But every business was being forced to shake down employees for something that equates to the seasonal flu vaccine.

"Every business was being forced" -- really? Can't take people like you seriously when you make stuff up.

You want to know which employee required vaccines before Covid? The military, that's who.

And again with your dismissal of all the Covid deaths. A big middle finger to you. I lost my mom because of Covid. Because someone else who had it passed it on to her, before there was a vaccine. The vaccine has saved countless lives including that of my child who has a pre-existing condition that makes her extremely vulnerable. Yes, I am angry at people like you who downplay the reality of our national trauma caused by this virus that you dismiss. The vaccine protects us. It protects my child.

I’m sorry about your mother but what protected your child was the virus mutated long ago to become a less lethal strain. Sadly, if your mother was properly treated, she might’ve survived. Telling people to go home and wait until they could no longer breathe was medical malpractice. You don’t know if HCQ or Ivermectin could have helped early on because it was banned. All you have are ‘studies’ that tell you that it would not have. I know doctors that had success with it early on, but politics got in the way and that was that.

1.1 million dead Americans, including those who Omicron got to, say a big old FU.

Sadly people like you will never see clearly unless you too suffer a huge loss. And even then it’s debatable you’d finally get it.

And yet, there were zero flu deaths. Come ON. I did suffer a huge loss - the loss of a 21 year old within a week of the vaccine

I gather you are neither a medical professional nor a researcher, but a quick google search reveals your hyperbolic misinformation. Please note that flu cases are not as widespread in general as Covid was at its height.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2021-2022.htm

Very sorry about the loss of your 21 year old, which I gather you are tying to their vaccination status, and which of course affects your view point. As of January there had been some 656 MILLION vaccine doses given in the US. And there were some 18,000 unverified (note that, unverified) reported deaths that the people reporting associated with the vaccine. That's not a medical doctor confirming those 18,000 were the result of adverse reactions to the Covid vaccine, it's people saying, I think my grandpa's death 2 weeks after getting the jab was due to the jab. The CDC has been able to confirm only 9 verified deaths from the vaccine, all involving blood clots caused by the J&J. Unfortunately no vaccine is without adverse reactions, not the ones you were made to get when you were young, not the flu vaccine that I take every year. It's a risk people take because 1.1 million deaths from a highly contagious airborne disease is not acceptable in any society.

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example 4,000,000,000000000000 into infinity

who in the world thinks a room full of regular people even know who dylan mulvaney is, let alone sitting around stewing about her all day

these culture wars would be hilarious if they weren't so evil

That's what Anheuser Busch thought, and now they are telling their distributors to give the unsold beer to their employees to take home.
They could have kept it but for that freshness dating they introduced some time back.

Yep. And Target says hello too

When corporations give in to threats of mob violence...

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans saying the quiet part out loud, they want a dictatorship.

[insert Roy Kent gif with a forbidden word]

I have to say, there's a lot I hate about Republicans - and their scary, apocalyptic "promises" about what's coming is up there at the top of what I hate most. But it's a big top. Very top-heavy.

Isn't it the Democrats who have been talking about their apocalyptic "promises" concerning climate change? Al Gore said many of the world's coastal cities would be inundated by sea level rise by 2023. Of course, he said that while owing a Tennessee mansion with three people living in it that consumed more power than a small town. Liberal hypocrite.

yes and humans did a lot in the intervening 30 years to help mitigate so instead of 2023 it is now more like 2050, but there is still more to do to try to prepare while also mitigating. Thanks for making the point that we CAN do something about it.

Also in one case we're trying to avoid the catastrophic existential threat - climate change

While in the other, the Rs are positively giddy about a dictator. They know that saying this stuff is creepy, weird, and sort of scary to normies - but those R weirdos love it, themselves.

I guess they love the threat of climate change, too. They're lusting for it. They are such strange and off-putting people.

LOL! Dictator? Forcing people to get vaccinated or lose their jobs? Even when the vaccination is not proven to work?
Forcing schools to close by local Dem School Boards. And, the President supporting those SB and attacking those who criticize. Mandating that Trans women and girls be allowed in women sports? Contrary to public wishes.

Luckily the vaccine has worked and is working. So your scenario is false from the get-go.

People have to get vaccinated all the time. For school (do you not have children or remember when you were a child and had to get vaccinated. As in yes you were forced to either get vaccinated or to go to a different school if you chose not to). Also to travel to certain countries.

I realize R's do not care about the common good or doing the right thing for society's sake. But man. More than 1,000,000,000 people dead. Including relatives of mine from before the vaccine. And I'm willing to bet also relatives and friends of yours.

So yes, if you work in a field like health where you interact with a lot of people and are told you need certain vaccines to be able to go into work, then you will have to choose between getting the vaccine or rejecting it and quitting your job. Lots of jobs have various requirements. If you don't like having requirements for a job then start up your own business.

Outside of healthcare, give me one example of an employer demanding to see your MMR or chicken pox vaccination card. Both which by the way confer sterilizing immunity. Something that actually protects the general population.
But every business was being forced to shake down employees for something that equates to the seasonal flu vaccine.

"Every business was being forced" -- really? Can't take people like you seriously when you make stuff up.

You want to know which employee required vaccines before Covid? The military, that's who.

And again with your dismissal of all the Covid deaths. A big middle finger to you. I lost my mom because of Covid. Because someone else who had it passed it on to her, before there was a vaccine. The vaccine has saved countless lives including that of my child who has a pre-existing condition that makes her extremely vulnerable. Yes, I am angry at people like you who downplay the reality of our national trauma caused by this virus that you dismiss. The vaccine protects us. It protects my child.

I’m sorry about your mother but what protected your child was the virus mutated long ago to become a less lethal strain. Sadly, if your mother was properly treated, she might’ve survived. Telling people to go home and wait until they could no longer breathe was medical malpractice. You don’t know if HCQ or Ivermectin could have helped early on because it was banned. All you have are ‘studies’ that tell you that it would not have. I know doctors that had success with it early on, but politics got in the way and that was that.

1.1 million dead Americans, including those who Omicron got to, say a big old FU.

Sadly people like you will never see clearly unless you too suffer a huge loss. And even then it’s debatable you’d finally get it.

And yet, there were zero flu deaths. Come ON. I did suffer a huge loss - the loss of a 21 year old within a week of the vaccine