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Post 07/18/2023 23:32     Subject: Gosselins

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Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
--
Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
--


Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.


honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes


I'm sure many parents have felt the way you describe.

However, if you were actually hitting and slamming your kid around after instantly becoming so angry would you then be curious as to why that kid had trouble handling frustration and controlling their temper?


These aren't proven to be quotes from Kate, they are fabricated for a book by someone else.

No they are proven to be quotes from Kate. A pap found her personal computer discarded by the road after a "tip" from Jon and used these entires as the basis to write the book - there was a lawsuit over whether or not it was legal for him to use what he found in the computer, but both Kate and her lawyers indicated that everything found was written by her.


So you honestly believe Kate discarded her personal computer with all these horrible diary entries in the side of the road? You are really gullible.

That's what Kate and her lawyers said under a court of law.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:31     Subject: Re:Gosselins

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Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.


How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.


Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.


It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?


If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.


He couldn't hold down an IT job when the sextuplets were babies or over the years as they grew up. He has not always been working.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:28     Subject: Gosselins

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Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
--
Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
--


Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.


honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes


I'm sure many parents have felt the way you describe.

However, if you were actually hitting and slamming your kid around after instantly becoming so angry would you then be curious as to why that kid had trouble handling frustration and controlling their temper?


These aren't proven to be quotes from Kate, they are fabricated for a book by someone else.

No they are proven to be quotes from Kate. A pap found her personal computer discarded by the road after a "tip" from Jon and used these entires as the basis to write the book - there was a lawsuit over whether or not it was legal for him to use what he found in the computer, but both Kate and her lawyers indicated that everything found was written by her.


So you honestly believe Kate discarded her personal computer with all these horrible diary entries in the side of the road? You are really gullible.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:17     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:I watched the Vice special. Not much new information, but some interesting points:

• The way Jon noticed that Collin was gone was because Jon would go to the kid’s school during lunch to eat with them. He said this was the only time he ever got to see the kids collectively. He noticed Collin was gone and the other kids were not saying where he was. He asked a guidance counselor who told him Collin was no longer enrolled, but would not give him any further information.

• Jon said Kate sent Collin away once he started to disclose the abuse he was facing at home to teachers and other adults.

• Hannah said the siblings did not know where Collin was, and that when she found out, she did not want to go back home to Kate because she was angry. This resulted in a fight between Jon and Kate over Hannah and her custody.

• Hannah also said all the siblings know what actually happened to Collin now, but that they still chose not to have a relationship with him. She does not disclose why, nor do the producers ask, but Hannah seems incredulous over her sibling’s decision to not speak to Collin even after finding out the truth.

- Hannah said that when she initially moved in with Jon, she had no relationship with Kate. Now (this was filmed in January 2023 or late 2022) she is working on bettering that
relationship and at least speaking to her mom.

• Collin got into a nearly fatal accident last year and none of his other siblings nor his mom reached out to him. He said he still loves his siblings to death and hopes they can reconnect one day.

Overall, this left me with more questions than answers. Hannah participated in this and seems to be firmly on Collin’s side and seems to not understand how their siblings could do that to Collin even after finding out the truth. However, a few months later, she was on lives with her sisters who were throwing shade at their brother and saying she would never do a tell all without her siblings consent, KNOWING this was filmed and would eventually come out.

I would also mention that Hannah said that Kate isolated Collin from the other kids. He was not allowed to eat with the family and ate separately at a different time. Kate wouldn't let him go outside and play with his sibs. Wonder what other cruel things she did that weren't mentioned?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:15     Subject: Gosselins

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Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
--
Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
--


Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.


honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes


I'm sure many parents have felt the way you describe.

However, if you were actually hitting and slamming your kid around after instantly becoming so angry would you then be curious as to why that kid had trouble handling frustration and controlling their temper?


These aren't proven to be quotes from Kate, they are fabricated for a book by someone else.

No they are proven to be quotes from Kate. A pap found her personal computer discarded by the road after a "tip" from Jon and used these entires as the basis to write the book - there was a lawsuit over whether or not it was legal for him to use what he found in the computer, but both Kate and her lawyers indicated that everything found was written by her.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:11     Subject: Gosselins

Collin has always looked the most like Jon. I think that's why Kate hated him.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:07     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
--
Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
--


Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.


honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes


I'm sure many parents have felt the way you describe.

However, if you were actually hitting and slamming your kid around after instantly becoming so angry would you then be curious as to why that kid had trouble handling frustration and controlling their temper?


These aren't proven to be quotes from Kate, they are fabricated for a book by someone else.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:03     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
--
Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
--


Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.


honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes


I'm sure many parents have felt the way you describe.

However, if you were actually hitting and slamming your kid around after instantly becoming so angry would you then be curious as to why that kid had trouble handling frustration and controlling their temper?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:01     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If you don’t have a special needs child with severe emotional problems, you just can’t understand. I’m not a Kate fan—I think putting your kids on reality TV is proof of bad parenting—but I barely have time to help my survival needs child and I only have two. There was NO WAY she could deal with seven other kids. It’s easy to parent SPED kids until you have one; then it’s damn near impossible.

How did Collin enlist in the military if he has such severe emotional problems? 🤔 I thought that was disqualifying.


Has he enlisted or just talked about it?

Yes, he enlisted in USMC. Sounds like he's headed to Parris Island soon.


MC is much more flexible. Air Force and Navy are much more picky.

Still. you really think "A special needs child with severe emotional problems", in pp's words, who was apparently so bad that it necessitated years at a residential treatment facility and his mother and siblings to cut him off, would be accepted into the USMC?
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:01     Subject: Re:Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP here, she goes to UMiami

No she doesn't. She's still in high school and will be graduating soon.

Collin intends to join the military (or already joined?). Mady and Cara are graduating from Syracuse and Fordham this year. Not sure what the other 5 plans are.


How did they afford the out of state tuition?

Mady has said on tiktok that she is not receiving parental help for college and has loans. I believe Alexis also said that she's paying for college. Pretty despicable that their parents blew all that money instead of helping their kids out.


Kate controlled all the money. This isn't Dad's fault. She blew the money or is keeping it for herself. If she doesn't have a relationship with Dad, not his responsibility.


It’s not his fault he couldn’t keep a job or contribute financially for his family?


If they did the child support calculations, Kate was making a fortune off the show so he probably wasn't required to pay much at all if anything. She kept all the earnings from the show. He was always working but I cannot imagine his income was enough to maintain her lifestyle which was probably the bigger issue.

Its appauling how she blew through the money.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 22:59     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you don’t have a special needs child with severe emotional problems, you just can’t understand. I’m not a Kate fan—I think putting your kids on reality TV is proof of bad parenting—but I barely have time to help my survival needs child and I only have two. There was NO WAY she could deal with seven other kids. It’s easy to parent SPED kids until you have one; then it’s damn near impossible.

How did Collin enlist in the military if he has such severe emotional problems? 🤔 I thought that was disqualifying.


Has he enlisted or just talked about it?

Yes, he enlisted in USMC. Sounds like he's headed to Parris Island soon.


MC is much more flexible. Air Force and Navy are much more picky.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 22:53     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
--
Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
--


This is from a gossip book with alleged diary entries of Kate Gosselin, written by someone else. Everyone is out to make things up to make money.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 22:48     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
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Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
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Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
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Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
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Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
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Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.


honestly this makes me feel for her / both parents. I'm a great mom (if I do say so myself) and have never hurt my kids but have definitely imagined smacking them across the face when I'm exhausted and cracking and its all so relentless. And I've only had 1 2yo at a time, I can't imagine 6. Of course I'm not saying its justified to hit a kid and ideally they'd have gotten help, but i do see how it would be so overwhelming it could push you too a blind rage at times. I don't think any adult could care for their own 6 2yos day in and day out without losing it sometimes
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 22:38     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:Some diary entries from when Collin was TWO. She's always had it out for that poor boy.

I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!
--
Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!!1 I was out of control so I made him goto his room until I could settle!UGH I hate this two year old naughtiness stuff!
--
Oh I wanted to mention my stress melt down today. After dealing with insurance companies all day due to being sideswiped by the old lady in the Shillington farmers market parking lot and having to file those reports, then having Heather stop by unannounced and it was the girls first day back to school after vacation, then Alexis and her ear pain and trying to make her an appt to see the doctor at a ret a r ted practice, I let the kids play for the first time in the water table that had beans in it instead…. Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs…I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day!
I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!
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Collin continues to try my nerves! He is really extremely helpful and I can count on him to get the job done one minute and the next he is doing something to make me nuts—like calling me a ‘boy’ repeatedly when he knows that I am a girl. Little things like that just to annoy!!!!
--
Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be…in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!
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Re the bolded...how incredibly ironic.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 22:35     Subject: Gosselins

Anonymous wrote:I watched the Vice special. Not much new information, but some interesting points:

• The way Jon noticed that Collin was gone was because Jon would go to the kid’s school during lunch to eat with them. He said this was the only time he ever got to see the kids collectively. He noticed Collin was gone and the other kids were not saying where he was. He asked a guidance counselor who told him Collin was no longer enrolled, but would not give him any further information.

• Jon said Kate sent Collin away once he started to disclose the abuse he was facing at home to teachers and other adults.

• Hannah said the siblings did not know where Collin was, and that when she found out, she did not want to go back home to Kate because she was angry. This resulted in a fight between Jon and Kate over Hannah and her custody.

• Hannah also said all the siblings know what actually happened to Collin now, but that they still chose not to have a relationship with him. She does not disclose why, nor do the producers ask, but Hannah seems incredulous over her sibling’s decision to not speak to Collin even after finding out the truth.

- Hannah said that when she initially moved in with Jon, she had no relationship with Kate. Now (this was filmed in January 2023 or late 2022) she is working on bettering that
relationship and at least speaking to her mom.


• Collin got into a nearly fatal accident last year and none of his other siblings nor his mom reached out to him. He said he still loves his siblings to death and hopes they can reconnect one day.

Overall, this left me with more questions than answers. Hannah participated in this and seems to be firmly on Collin’s side and seems to not understand how their siblings could do that to Collin even after finding out the truth. However, a few months later, she was on lives with her sisters who were throwing shade at their brother and saying she would never do a tell all without her siblings consent, KNOWING this was filmed and would eventually come out.

All of these kids have been abused since birth. 6 of them clearly have stockholm syndrome. Hopefully after they all graduate from college and are living on their own they can receive the intensive therapy that they deserve.