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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

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Imagine if she was not caught before covid - the claims she would have tried to attempt!

Imagine if the CDC or NIH bought those claims. The amount of ammunition the anti-vax/anti-science crowd would have gotten would have derailed public health for a generation

Well you can relax about that. No one who actually invests in the biotech/health care space bought into this from the beginning.

Look who was on her board - old white men involved in government and defense. No one from biotech. All biotech investors took a pass. Not sure how Walgreens got duped but the way they depicted it in the Dropout was pretty amusing.

She managed to sell her product to lots of place run by old white men:

"In 2012 Safeway invested $350 million into retrofitting 800 locations with clinics that would offer in-store blood tests. After many missed deadlines and questionable results from a trial clinic at Safeway's corporate offices, the deal was terminated in 2015.[16] In 2013, Theranos partnered with Walgreens to offer in-store blood tests at more than 40 locations.[17] Although Theranos blood tests were reportedly used on drug trial patients for GlaxoSmithKline and Pfizer, both companies stated that there were no active projects with Theranos in October 2015.[18][19] In June 2016, Walgreens terminated its partnership with Theranos. In November 2016 it filed suit against Theranos in federal court in Delaware for breach of contract. In June 2017, Theranos reported to investors that the suit, which originally sought $140 million in damages, was settled for less than $30 million.[20][21]

In March 2015 the Cleveland Clinic announced a partnership with Theranos to test its technology and decrease the cost of lab tests.[22][23] In July 2015, Theranos became the lab-work provider for Pennsylvania insurers AmeriHealth Caritas and Capital Blue Cross.[24][25]

In July 2015 the Food and Drug Administration approved the use of the company's fingerstick blood testing device for the herpes simplex virus (HSV-1) outside a clinical laboratory setting.[26][27] Theranos was named the 2015 Bioscience Company of the Year by the Arizona BioIndustry Association (AzBio).[28]"

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

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Imagine if she was not caught before covid - the claims she would have tried to attempt!

Imagine if the CDC or NIH bought those claims. The amount of ammunition the anti-vax/anti-science crowd would have gotten would have derailed public health for a generation

Well you can relax about that. No one who actually invests in the biotech/health care space bought into this from the beginning.

Look who was on her board - old white men involved in government and defense. No one from biotech. All biotech investors took a pass. Not sure how Walgreens got duped but the way they depicted it in the Dropout was pretty amusing.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

None of it is fake. People are complex, that's all. Elizabeth Holmes did her best to attract investments (Steve Jobs turtlenecks, etc), which was very business savvy. She then lied to investors and went entirely over the legal line. It doesn't mean she does not have a motherly side.

I find this entire discussion to be actually very demeaning to women in high-powered careers: they need to project a certain way at work. aThen they go home and enjoy a warmer aspect of their personality with their kids. It's entirely NORMAL.

But here this article, and this discussion, will associate such a dichotomy with criminality and possible psychopathy. It's incredibly damaging to working women to question why they behave differently at work than at home with their kids. Because essentially, this is what OP and the author are trying to do.
Have articles been written about males behaving differently at work and with their kids? Whether or not they are criminals? NO!

You can criticize this woman all you want for her crimes. But don't claim that just because you're seeing another side of her now, it's all put on and fake.

You seem confused. You can present professionally at work, climb the corporate ladder, and what have you, without being a pathological liar, committing fraud, and hurting innocent people. You can be a pathological liar and narcissist and also love your own children--this is the dichotomy of Liz Holmes.

No, I’m sorry, but you are wrong on this point. Ask anyone who was parented by a true narcissist- they are not capable of love. They do not love their children, their children are possessions to control and abuse and manipulate and exploit and throw away when they grow tired of it all. They make protestations of love but they are all empty and manipulative. All relationships are transactional.

Elizabeth Holmes does not love those children. Thank goodness they are going to have a decade free of her to develop their minds without the daily toxic abuse that a narcissistic mother inflicts. I hope their father chooses a better stepmother for them.

It’s pretty heinous to asset that she doesn’t love her children - do you love your children? Where’s the proof? See how easy it is to degrade your parental bond? Criminals are capable of love. It’s why we encourage visitation time during incarceration.

You are just exhibiting a broad ignorance of well established psychology.

I’ve worked in the criminal justice system and also family (including child dependency /neglect) and juvenile courts for decades, I have SEEN IT ALL.

Certain personality disorders manifest in such a way that no, those people are not capable of anything approximately healthy love and nurture of a child. There is so much scholarship on this you could get buried alive, please do educate yourself.

Well, I’m a psychologist and you have not examined her so it’s pretty unethical to make claims like that - but you be you.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

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Imagine if she was not caught before covid - the claims she would have tried to attempt!

Imagine if the CDC or NIH bought those claims. The amount of ammunition the anti-vax/anti-science crowd would have gotten would have derailed public health for a generation

but but but how unfair, sniff sniff, she's being separated from her precious baaaaabies. It's so unfaaaair. It was just a property crime that only affect really bad old white dudes. She didn't really do anything wrong. We're just a bunch of misogynistic meanies who don't see what an innocent rube she was in all of this.

Didn't a poster upthread say were were psychos for not being more concerned about her baaaaaabies and that the real injustice in all of this is that she is being separated from them?

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

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Imagine if she was not caught before covid - the claims she would have tried to attempt!

Imagine if the CDC or NIH bought those claims. The amount of ammunition the anti-vax/anti-science crowd would have gotten would have derailed public health for a generation

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

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Imagine if she was not caught before covid - the claims she would have tried to attempt!

Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how much the nytimes was bribed to write this drivel.

this is all of the NYT now and has been for some time. Total garbage.

Anonymous wrote:What’s interesting is that the author fell for her. She knew it was all fake, but Holmes is one of those people who can captivate an audience

Author is really dumb to still have this issue after a criminal conviction. You can tell she’s dumb by the way she writes too.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

+1 she could have really hurt a lot of people. It took a well connected scion risking the wrath of his grandfather to expose her. Between her and the other pedophile heiress you can see how people keep making excuses for white women.

The whistleblower didn't just risk the wrath of his grandfather. People were afraid for their lives. She is evil. That poster who is trying to push the narrative that she was some manipulated naif must be getting paid to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:+1 million to 12:14 who posted about the actual use of these wildly inaccurate blood tests which EH knew were faulty & still allowed to be used on real people. That is the difference here. I read Bad Blood, watched the Dropout, & have read a lot of coverage. EH is a bad person who is not just like a bunch of the blowhard tech bros -- she is WORSE because her blowhard tech persona resulted in real harm to people and she will not admit that. The reporter got snowed, the editor called it out, & the NYT should be ashamed to have published this whitewashing PR shill job.

and that poster who referred to this as a property crime needs to be shamed off of dcum.

Yes, but here in America she did not get convicted for any of that. Stealing money from rich people is what did her in.

She stole from people who bought those tests. Whether she was convicted or not referring to this as a property crime is disingenuous. Stop trying to make the heinous things she did all about rich people being upset. What you are doing is dishonest and manipulative.

I just want to know how much the nytimes was bribed to write this drivel.

Anonymous wrote:+1 million to 12:14 who posted about the actual use of these wildly inaccurate blood tests which EH knew were faulty & still allowed to be used on real people. That is the difference here. I read Bad Blood, watched the Dropout, & have read a lot of coverage. EH is a bad person who is not just like a bunch of the blowhard tech bros -- she is WORSE because her blowhard tech persona resulted in real harm to people and she will not admit that. The reporter got snowed, the editor called it out, & the NYT should be ashamed to have published this whitewashing PR shill job.

Agree!

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

+1 she could have really hurt a lot of people. It took a well connected scion risking the wrath of his grandfather to expose her. Between her and the other pedophile heiress you can see how people keep making excuses for white women.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason she had kids was her hope to delay/shorten the sentence. She is a psychopath.

Exactly. This was total manipulation and now two kids have to pay for it. No honest and sane person would have two kids in quick order when facing a lengthy sentence unless she was hoping people would take sympathy.

She should have more time added for this bs.

And this is why the U.S. is content to let children be shot en masse. The "she should have more time added" are just as devoid of a moral compass as any fraudster. Either getting off on human suffering or just missing any empathy chip. Really scary stuff.

What’s scary is that if she hadn’t gotten in trouble she’d still be shilling her faulty tests and allowing people to experience real world health effects so that she can pretend to be Steve Jobs. 12 years in jail is also 12 years of her being unable to scam and hurt people. Part of why we send people to jail is to protect the general population.

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Anonymous wrote:+1 million to 12:14 who posted about the actual use of these wildly inaccurate blood tests which EH knew were faulty & still allowed to be used on real people. That is the difference here. I read Bad Blood, watched the Dropout, & have read a lot of coverage. EH is a bad person who is not just like a bunch of the blowhard tech bros -- she is WORSE because her blowhard tech persona resulted in real harm to people and she will not admit that. The reporter got snowed, the editor called it out, & the NYT should be ashamed to have published this whitewashing PR shill job.

and that poster who referred to this as a property crime needs to be shamed off of dcum.

Yes, but here in America she did not get convicted for any of that. Stealing money from rich people is what did her in.

Its a little like mafia bosses going to jail for tax evasion. That's what the prosecutor can get them for even if their real crimes are murder, racketeering, etc. The key is to get these people off the streets by any means necessary. If anyone thinks who only victims are rich investors, then you haven't been paying attention.