Anonymous wrote:Eastern's failure to attract a good cohort of UMC in-boundary families is a no brainer. The main problem is that there's no DCPS middle-high school bridge East of Rock Creek, with UMC Hill families overwhelmingly peeling off for vastly superior charter middle/highs schools that take them to 12th grade or for Walls or Banneker for 9th. Without a super duper test-in IBD program, e.g. Richard Montgomery in Rockville, Eastern has no allure for almost all high SES families EotP. DCPS doesn't give a hoot and political heads don't roll over the state of Eastern.

If Eliot-Hine's IB program becomes really strong, I can see families try to stick together and continue on at Eastern.

Eastern's failure to attract a good cohort of UMC in-boundary families is a no brainer. The main problem is that there's no DCPS middle-high school bridge East of Rock Creek, with UMC Hill families overwhelmingly peeling off for vastly superior charter middle/highs schools that take them to 12th grade or for Walls or Banneker for 9th. Without a super duper test-in IBD program, e.g. Richard Montgomery in Rockville, Eastern has no allure for almost all high SES families EotP. DCPS doesn't give a hoot and political heads don't roll over the state of Eastern.

I’m curious what people think it would take to make Eastern a strong option. It seems like a lot of the ingredients are there. The neighborhood has tons of families who I think would prefer to send their kid to a diverse public school, but aren’t comfortable picking one with so few kids on grade level and so few options for strong students. The IB program seems like a great potential solution to that—why hasn’t that taken off? Have they just not done enough to make it attractive? Making Eastern stronger would help the middle schools too, I would think. What is the barrier? I’m genuinely asking because I just don’t know.

Anonymous wrote:While high school is a little bit different, the three DCPS Hill middle schools would be a lot like Hardy/Deal (minus the size) if ballpark 200 kids were not siphoned off every year to Basis/Latin. Hardy/Deal still have problems but there is a lot more in-boundary buy-in and so do Basis/Latin (to some extent). People get this. They see this. But there is nothing you can really do when 2/3 of your child's friends leave for charters in 5th grade except join them.

Based on the Hardy thread, Hardy looks like a mess and I'd never send my kid there if it were my IB. I'd still be applying to Basis/Latin, and my guess is most other people in the boundary will be/are doing the same.

Anonymous wrote:While high school is a little bit different, the three DCPS Hill middle schools would be a lot like Hardy/Deal (minus the size) if ballpark 200 kids were not siphoned off every year to Basis/Latin. Hardy/Deal still have problems but there is a lot more in-boundary buy-in and so do Basis/Latin (to some extent). People get this. They see this. But there is nothing you can really do when 2/3 of your child's friends leave for charters in 5th grade except join them.

The passive voice is doing a lot of work in that sentence. I think you mean to say, "...if parents did not embrace free alternatives and send their kids to other schools they deem better fits, just as parents with means have the ability to do with expensive private schools."

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Anonymous wrote:So far, none of the Weedon critics in this thread have pointed to an actual quote in which Weedon indicated that parents should choose schools like Eastern over higher-performing options.

Do any of you have such an example, with a link? Just one? Something to back up your accusations of hypocrisy?

there’s literally and entire WaPo article on it.

“ He has stood on that pulpit as a father and an elected official, always able to say he sends his two children to the elementary and middle schools blocks away from his home.”

Not to mention PPs with first hand experience

Which you literally did not read. Because it does not say what you think it says.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So far, none of the Weedon critics in this thread have pointed to an actual quote in which Weedon indicated that parents should choose schools like Eastern over higher-performing options.

Do any of you have such an example, with a link? Just one? Something to back up your accusations of hypocrisy?



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He and his racist friends were bullies directly to me (woc) when we chose a charter. They treat people of color as a shortcut to tout their anti racist views. In my opinion they’re the most racist quite people of all. [/quote]

So, other than a white person speaking to you about schools, you can provide no examples? I think you don't know what the word "bully" means. Sounds to me like you are REALLY insecure about your choices and this is not at all about Weedon. False claims of racism make it harder to fight real battles.

Anonymous wrote:So far, none of the Weedon critics in this thread have pointed to an actual quote in which Weedon indicated that parents should choose schools like Eastern over higher-performing options.

Do any of you have such an example, with a link? Just one? Something to back up your accusations of hypocrisy?

there’s literally and entire WaPo article on it.

“ He has stood on that pulpit as a father and an elected official, always able to say he sends his two children to the elementary and middle schools blocks away from his home.”

Not to mention PPs with first hand experience

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you who are making these general accusations against Weedon have any links to actual quotes from him from before his daughter made the decision to attend SWW? What specifically are you claiming that he said back then? Links, please.

Here’s just one example of his anti-charter advocacy: https://twitter.com/joeweedon/status/1516514315028905991

And here he is advocating for limiting choice for parents who have “good” IB options: https://thedcline.org/2018/11/05/ward-6-candidates-tout-varying-approaches-backgrounds-in-state-board-of-education-race/

Yeah, I’m not at all impressed by these examples.

The first says that privatization of education is increasing, including in DC. Is that not true?

The second appears to suggest that kids who are inbound for lowering-performing schools should have better access to lottery schools than those who are in-bound for higher-performing schools. I don’t see any inconsistency between that position and sending your kid to SWW when your inbound is Eastern.

Any better examples?

I mean, the entire washington post article is about his “values” so that’s probably all you need.

There is no pleasing social justice warriors.
You get attacked for not sending your kid to neighborhood schools but then podcasts like Nice White Parents also attack parents if you do send your kids to the neighborhood schools but try to get involved and change things. The ex. Wilson principal routinely mocked UMC white neighborhood parents for getting over involved in school issues. You are expected to send your kids to the neighborhood school and shut up and accept the status quo. No wonder many parents are driven away from DCPS

Exactly, don't blame the families. Joe Weedon is a holier than thou jerk.

Anonymous wrote:While high school is a little bit different, the three DCPS Hill middle schools would be a lot like Hardy/Deal (minus the size) if ballpark 200 kids were not siphoned off every year to Basis/Latin. Hardy/Deal still have problems but there is a lot more in-boundary buy-in and so do Basis/Latin (to some extent). People get this. They see this. But there is nothing you can really do when 2/3 of your child's friends leave for charters in 5th grade except join them.

As if this was a new thought. Yes. If all the Hill elementary school fed into a school like Deal, it could possibly change the situation. But as is—the elementary schools are split among three middle schools and that isn’t going to change. Don’t blame families for reacting rationally to the situation they are faced with.

While high school is a little bit different, the three DCPS Hill middle schools would be a lot like Hardy/Deal (minus the size) if ballpark 200 kids were not siphoned off every year to Basis/Latin. Hardy/Deal still have problems but there is a lot more in-boundary buy-in and so do Basis/Latin (to some extent). People get this. They see this. But there is nothing you can really do when 2/3 of your child's friends leave for charters in 5th grade except join them.

The article

https://wapo.st/3CcLk9s

[quote=Anonymous]So far, none of the Weedon critics in this thread have pointed to an actual quote in which Weedon indicated that parents should choose schools like Eastern over higher-performing options.

Do any of you have such an example, with a link? Just one? Something to back up your accusations of hypocrisy?



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He and his racist friends were bullies directly to me (woc) when we chose a charter. They treat people of color as a shortcut to tout their anti racist views. In my opinion they’re the most racist quite people of all.