Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 19:46     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:I got a ticket there once and now keep a look out for that bus right around 3:10. I stop. If one person does, everyone generally does. Then again, I’m also the one who stops to let ppl cross in the crosswalk near the bridge there.


Good luck not getting rear ended by 20+ vehicles who won’t know WTF you slowed down or stopped.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 16:29     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

I got a ticket there once and now keep a look out for that bus right around 3:10. I stop. If one person does, everyone generally does. Then again, I’m also the one who stops to let ppl cross in the crosswalk near the bridge there.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 16:23     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.


Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.


Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.


It didn’t expect a bus to stop in river road commercial district. No one does. Nor should it.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 16:22     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.


Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.


Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.


Oh my goodness. Are you ten? “But Mommy, Tommy didn’t stop when the law requires that he stop so why should I? It’s not faaaiiirrr!!!”



No one is going to stop. Too many cars going to the speed limit minding too many business driveways, lanes and cars to stop 20 feet before a moving bus just as it may or may not stop and turn out its sign.

That’s the actual problem with that bus stop, location, turnouts and volume of traffic.

Harp all you want about the rules, no one is stopping. Call the news and have them watch from 3-3:30pm
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 15:56     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.


Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.


Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.


Oh my goodness. Are you ten? “But Mommy, Tommy didn’t stop when the law requires that he stop so why should I? It’s not faaaiiirrr!!!”

Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 15:42     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.


Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.


Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 15:41     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a roundabout, one of two horseshoe driveways may have a roof height limit. Go check.

I’m a PP who has been going through that intersection my entire driving life of 35 years. A school bus is not fitting under that overhang.


Bus should stop on Little Falls before turning and let the kid off. Cars are already stopped, there are only four lanes, and there are no shops or drives activity.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 12:05     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:It’s a roundabout, one of two horseshoe driveways may have a roof height limit. Go check.

I’m a PP who has been going through that intersection my entire driving life of 35 years. A school bus is not fitting under that overhang.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 12:03     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.


Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 12:01     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:Lol.

No, rarely, not even at the non light crosswalk under the bridge.

Maybe at 2am when the twenty gas tankers come to fill up the ten gas stations it’s safe to cross / no traffic.


People don't cross the road there, because it's too dangerous, therefore there's no need to make the road less dangerous, because people don't cross the road there.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 11:52     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Lol.

No, rarely, not even at the non light crosswalk under the bridge.

Maybe at 2am when the twenty gas tankers come to fill up the ten gas stations it’s safe to cross / no traffic.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 11:51     Subject: School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 11:46     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:Dude, no one crosses river road there on foot, they’d be hit multiple times or cause a pile up.

The kid is dropped off in front of their place. Does not cross the street. Across the street is five more gas stations, each with 5-8 cars pumping or in line.


People do cross the road there, whether or not you see them.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 11:46     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.
Anonymous
Post 04/30/2023 11:45     Subject: Re:School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

Anonymous wrote:This is very road specific issue.

I don’t see how anyone can really notice a bus so far away nor stop in the middle of that menagerie.

That bus must generate a ton of money and really shouldn’t be stopping there, it will cause accidents across all 5-6 lanes if anyone stops. That mile stretch has too much volume, vendors, activity, and turning to see anything going on a few lanes over. Especially at after school time, which is worse traffic patterns (ie no pattern) or than at 8am.


"So far away"?