Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 17:02     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that 80 percent of remote workers have second jobs during the workday? I highly doubt that. If anything, I think those workers are the exception and not the majority.


It is 79 percent. It moves between 60 percent and 80 percent since Covid.

https://www.hcamag.com/us/specialization/employee-engagement/how-many-remote-workers-have-two-jobs/435607
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 17:01     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
My gen Zs want a lot more than a lamé promotion.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 17:01     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Typical dcum. One Z doesn’t care about something. They all don’t care about it.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 16:50     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Yeah, true. They don't want your life. They don't want your same worries. You can't motivate them with the same things.

What else do you have in your bag?
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 16:42     Subject: Re:Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They’re still pretty young. If and when they have to start paying insurance, saving for retirement, housing & childcare their tune will change. I was going to be a “digital nomad” at 22 too.


They are not having kids. Not buying SFHs.


Not now. That doesn’t mean they won’t ever.


They will not. Its a generational shift.


NP. The oldest Gen Z is, what, 27? We’ll see in 5-10 years if hormonal shifts start to trump generational shifts. A lot of women don’t want kids until they realize their time to actually have kids is running out. Nature has a way.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 16:30     Subject: Re:Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They’re still pretty young. If and when they have to start paying insurance, saving for retirement, housing & childcare their tune will change. I was going to be a “digital nomad” at 22 too.


They are not having kids. Not buying SFHs.


Not now. That doesn’t mean they won’t ever.


They will not. Its a generational shift.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 15:54     Subject: Re:Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They’re still pretty young. If and when they have to start paying insurance, saving for retirement, housing & childcare their tune will change. I was going to be a “digital nomad” at 22 too.


They are not having kids. Not buying SFHs.


Not now. That doesn’t mean they won’t ever.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 15:41     Subject: Re:Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:They’re still pretty young. If and when they have to start paying insurance, saving for retirement, housing & childcare their tune will change. I was going to be a “digital nomad” at 22 too.


They are not having kids. Not buying SFHs.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 15:34     Subject: Re:Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
What are these remote jobs paying $90k+ year that are relaxed enough to allow for a second job, and how do I find one?
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 15:33     Subject: Re:Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
They’re still pretty young. If and when they have to start paying insurance, saving for retirement, housing & childcare their tune will change. I was going to be a “digital nomad” at 22 too.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 15:25     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:Are you saying that 80 percent of remote workers have second jobs during the workday? I highly doubt that. If anything, I think those workers are the exception and not the majority.


I know more remote workers with multiple jobs than I do without.

These are all positions where they had their own LLCs for consulting work on the side pre-pandemic. They worked after work and on weekends. However, now that they WFH and there's no one to overhear who they may be speaking with on the phone or notice the fact that they have 2 laptops on their desk, they are free to work their main job & consulting job at the same time.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 14:09     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why older generations get so upset with the younger generations not treating their job like their whole life's purpose.


I think Gen Z thinks that’s what they’re doing. Like they found some secret sauce. But the shortcut doesn’t exist. You can leave early and put up boundaries but really…..you just aren’t that important yet. As you continue your career, you’ll see that the people who put in all the work will pull ahead. People made the same lazy stereotype to Gen Y. Oh, and Gen X is called that because they were seen as aimless. People forget it wasn’t just some end of the alphabet naming convention.

There are certainly Gen Z people who are not pushing back. They will get ahead like their older counterparts. I’m the Xennial that does not want to be a manager. I’m 43 and I’m now at a good spot, but I definitely turned down opportunities to be more important at work. There are people in every generation who fit that description. Other people worked harder, some worked less so. Some worked less hard and got lucky or were well liked or kissed ass or made a particularly insightful choice. It happens. It will happen to everyone.


It’s counter-intuitive that a non-manager 43 year old is lecturing Gen Z’s lack of drive.
In the end none of you, working hard or not, really matters 🤷‍♀️


And if you think that you really matter only if you’re a manager you’re likely a terrible manager. In my field (Computer Science) you’d be very loathe to make that assumption.

I’m not lecturing anyone on lack of drive. I’m pointing out that this is not a generational divide, it’s a personality type.

Also, just because I’m not a manager doesn’t mean I lack drive….it means I lack desire to be a manager.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 14:08     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why older generations get so upset with the younger generations not treating their job like their whole life's purpose.


I think Gen Z thinks that’s what they’re doing. Like they found some secret sauce. But the shortcut doesn’t exist. You can leave early and put up boundaries but really…..you just aren’t that important yet. As you continue your career, you’ll see that the people who put in all the work will pull ahead. People made the same lazy stereotype to Gen Y. Oh, and Gen X is called that because they were seen as aimless. People forget it wasn’t just some end of the alphabet naming convention.

There are certainly Gen Z people who are not pushing back. They will get ahead like their older counterparts. I’m the Xennial that does not want to be a manager. I’m 43 and I’m now at a good spot, but I definitely turned down opportunities to be more important at work. There are people in every generation who fit that description. Other people worked harder, some worked less so. Some worked less hard and got lucky or were well liked or kissed ass or made a particularly insightful choice. It happens. It will happen to everyone.


It’s counter-intuitive that a non-manager 43 year old is lecturing Gen Z’s lack of drive.
In the end none of you, working hard or not, really matters 🤷‍♀️


I’m not lecturing anyone on lack of drive. I’m pointing out that this is not a generational divide, it’s a personality type.

Also, just because I’m not a manager doesn’t mean I lack drive….it means I lack desire to be a manager.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 13:57     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why older generations get so upset with the younger generations not treating their job like their whole life's purpose.


I think Gen Z thinks that’s what they’re doing. Like they found some secret sauce. But the shortcut doesn’t exist. You can leave early and put up boundaries but really…..you just aren’t that important yet. As you continue your career, you’ll see that the people who put in all the work will pull ahead. People made the same lazy stereotype to Gen Y. Oh, and Gen X is called that because they were seen as aimless. People forget it wasn’t just some end of the alphabet naming convention.

There are certainly Gen Z people who are not pushing back. They will get ahead like their older counterparts. I’m the Xennial that does not want to be a manager. I’m 43 and I’m now at a good spot, but I definitely turned down opportunities to be more important at work. There are people in every generation who fit that description. Other people worked harder, some worked less so. Some worked less hard and got lucky or were well liked or kissed ass or made a particularly insightful choice. It happens. It will happen to everyone.


It’s counter-intuitive that a non-manager 43 year old is lecturing Gen Z’s lack of drive.
In the end none of you, working hard or not, really matters 🤷‍♀️
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2023 13:31     Subject: Gen Z doesn't seem to care about career advancement??
Are you saying that 80 percent of remote workers have second jobs during the workday? I highly doubt that. If anything, I think those workers are the exception and not the majority.