Anonymous wrote:Elon’s 25th-75th percentile SAT range is 1175-1330. UR is 1410-1500. Are we done comparing apples and oranges?

The smartest kids at Elon would be the dumbest kids at Richmond, to be crude about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon’s 25th-75th percentile SAT range is 1175-1330. UR is 1410-1500. Are we done comparing apples and oranges?

The smartest kids at Elon would be the dumbest kids at Richmond, to be crude about it.

The last year test scores were required by either was 2019. According to the CDS from that year for each:

Elon's SAT ran from 1170-1330, which is 77th percentile to 93rd percentile. The median is around the 85th percentile.

Richmond's ran from 1300-1450, which is 91st to 99th percentile. The median is around the 95th percentile.

25% of Elon's students are therefore close to, at, or above the median at Richmond.

Also, speaking of comparing apples and oranges, the difference in intellectual capacity of the students at ANY two schools is nowhere near the same as that of the faculty. At Elon, 82% of the faculty have a PhD or other terminal degree. At Richmond, it's only 74%. How do you like them apples?

Same poster. My apologies. The numbers I gave for professors are totally wrong. It's 85% for Richmond vs. 77% for Elon. The test score numbers for students are correct, though.

Yes the smartest kids at Elon are similar to the second quartile of kids at UR. Some people look at this data and conclude that a 20-30 point difference is meaningful. Here we are talking about 120-130 points. By your reasoning, basically all top 300 colleges in the US are essentially the same and one might as well choose Clemson over Duke. They are just as good, basically. Again, I don’t care, send your kid to Elon

Anonymous wrote:This is OP. I wasn’t trying to start drama. I would like to learn what is different or the same about these two schools that, on a superficial level, seem pretty similar. My daughter is looking for a mid-size school.

Anonymous wrote:The gap is definitely narrowing between these two schools. At our HS, of those that got into both, 2 chose Richmond and 2 chose Elon. People are increasingly turned off by the heavy frat scene and snobbery at Richmond.

Anonymous wrote:If someone can convince Elon to guarantee a job for every Elon graduate..

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Anonymous wrote:If someone can convince Elon to guarantee a job for every Elon graduate..

Again, why so nasty? We have a few Elon grads and they are all bright, hardworking, and no different than any other new hire.
Did you get your heart broken by someone who went to Elon or something?

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Anonymous wrote:Elon is on the rise. Richmond on the decline. But you do you. Yeah, you do you. Just giving you the facts to make your own judgment.

Elon is on the rise with rich kids who aren’t that bright. Richmond is a very solid school and getting better.

Any sources here?

Literally 20 minutes of googling will lead anyone to this sensible conclusion

What do you expect a randomized double blind study?

Please share if it's so obvious

Look at the CDS of each school.

How exactly does that show UR is superior?

I feel like i engaged with you earlier and it was very frustrating. You dismissed meaningful data points like test scores and acceptance rates. Everyone who is tapped into college admissions knows it is very hard to get into UR and only really bright accomplished kids end up there, whereas almost any half decent student can get into Elon. And the ones who go to Elon are the ones with no better options. So believe what you want to believe, I really don’t care

NP here. I get that the other PP is being rude, but so are you. I have a kid going to Elon who has “better” options. She turned down 3 colleges with higher USNWR rankings and some that are lower ranked but people here would like better. It’s where she wants to go and it spoke to her. Everyone she has spoke to that went there loved it.

i am under no illusion that it is a "better" school than UR. In fact, i tried to get her to apply to UR as well, but she thought it was too small.

Please keep in mind in your comments that these schools are some kids' choices and there are kids on here (not mine). we can compare facts and experiences without trashing schools. i would guess most people on here trashing Elon have never set foot on campus and have no idea what the
school offers.

And so what if a kid has "no better option"? If they like the school, one is all they need.

Grow up, all of you!

Ok fine, I don’t want to hurt any kid’s feelings but at the same time all kids should be prepared for people to crap on their Alma maters (and other aspects of their identity) whether justified or not. Kids need to understand, people talk a lot of smack, and you can’t let it get to you

Anonymous wrote:If someone can convince Elon to guarantee a job for every Elon graduate..

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Anonymous wrote:Elon is on the rise. Richmond on the decline. But you do you. Yeah, you do you. Just giving you the facts to make your own judgment.

Elon is on the rise with rich kids who aren’t that bright. Richmond is a very solid school and getting better.

Any sources here?

Literally 20 minutes of googling will lead anyone to this sensible conclusion

What do you expect a randomized double blind study?

Please share if it's so obvious

Look at the CDS of each school.

How exactly does that show UR is superior?

I feel like i engaged with you earlier and it was very frustrating. You dismissed meaningful data points like test scores and acceptance rates. Everyone who is tapped into college admissions knows it is very hard to get into UR and only really bright accomplished kids end up there, whereas almost any half decent student can get into Elon. And the ones who go to Elon are the ones with no better options. So believe what you want to believe, I really don’t care

NP here. I get that the other PP is being rude, but so are you. I have a kid going to Elon who has “better” options. She turned down 3 colleges with higher USNWR rankings and some that are lower ranked but people here would like better. It’s where she wants to go and it spoke to her. Everyone she has spoke to that went there loved it.

i am under no illusion that it is a "better" school than UR. In fact, i tried to get her to apply to UR as well, but she thought it was too small.

Please keep in mind in your comments that these schools are some kids' choices and there are kids on here (not mine). we can compare facts and experiences without trashing schools. i would guess most people on here trashing Elon have never set foot on campus and have no idea what the
school offers.

And so what if a kid has "no better option"? If they like the school, one is all they need.

Grow up, all of you!

Ok fine, I don’t want to hurt any kid’s feelings but at the same time all kids should be prepared for people to crap on their Alma maters (and other aspects of their identity) whether justified or not. Kids need to understand, people talk a lot of smack, and you can’t let it get to you

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Anonymous wrote:Elon is on the rise. Richmond on the decline. But you do you. Yeah, you do you. Just giving you the facts to make your own judgment.

Elon is on the rise with rich kids who aren’t that bright. Richmond is a very solid school and getting better.

This is a not uncommon perception.

Which school attracts more employers/recruiters to its campus ?

Folks, Richmond is a really good school. It’s a top 20 ranked LAC. Kids with really high SAT and ACT scores go there. The endowment is north of $3 billion.

Elon is fine I guess but it ain’t no Richmond.

Richmond kids have the same employment opportunities as any other top LAC, maybe more via their business program. Richmond even has its own trading floor!