Anonymous wrote:Sounds like someone's son was pushed too much and burned out.

+1 Possibly a "crispie". Don't despair, though. Encourage your son to become acquainted with his college career planning & placement office counselors. This summer can be full of career-building through nonpaid internships/volunteer work, part-time temp work related to his major, and joining alumni and professional groups. If he made it through an Ivy, he has definite potential.

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Anonymous wrote:Has he done anything substantive to show interest in his field while in college? Did he do research for a professor? Did he join any professional societies? Intern during the semester anywhere? Work a campus job? A summer job?

It's been 1.5 years since COVID were rolled back. If he has done nothing to sell about himself, he's just lazy.

I'm his mother and I'm not going to disagree with your appraisal. Now that we have that out of the way, how does he get a good job with a practically vacant resume and one month from earning an Ivy League bachelor's degree?

Starbucks or equivelant while he searches for something more substantive.

Why do you keep pushing Starbucks? Have you never heard of temp agencies? Those pay better wages if you have skills and get you into offices where you can make connections.

Exactly what qualifications or experience would make a temp agency want to take this person on?

Any student will have up to date office tech skills.

You understand the Temp industry has changed a little since 1985, right?

Serious question for you. What is the industry like now?

Sounds like someone's son was pushed too much and burned out.

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Anonymous wrote:Has he done anything substantive to show interest in his field while in college? Did he do research for a professor? Did he join any professional societies? Intern during the semester anywhere? Work a campus job? A summer job?

It's been 1.5 years since COVID were rolled back. If he has done nothing to sell about himself, he's just lazy.

I'm his mother and I'm not going to disagree with your appraisal. Now that we have that out of the way, how does he get a good job with a practically vacant resume and one month from earning an Ivy League bachelor's degree?

Starbucks or equivelant while he searches for something more substantive.

Why do you keep pushing Starbucks? Have you never heard of temp agencies? Those pay better wages if you have skills and get you into offices where you can make connections.

Exactly what qualifications or experience would make a temp agency want to take this person on?

There are only about 13,000 Ivy League bachelor's degrees minted each year out of about 1.9 million bachelor's nationwide. Of course someone as successful as you ( ) doesn't value an Ivy League degree, the perception it confers, and the rigor and brainpower it takes to get into the college, but many employers do. Some employers want dibs on students from these universities, even raw ones, and will pay a premium for it. These employers pay multiple times more than the $15 an hour Home Depot and Starbucks pay to any high school graduate who shows up for an interview.

Okay if that’s true then why did OP make this thread? Shouldn’t her child just be able to waltz into a six-figure job by virtue of possessing an Ivy League B.A.?

It seems that maybe there’s a little more to getting a first year associate position at Oliver Wyman in 2023 than just sleepwalking through an Ivy.

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Anonymous wrote:Has he done anything substantive to show interest in his field while in college? Did he do research for a professor? Did he join any professional societies? Intern during the semester anywhere? Work a campus job? A summer job?

It's been 1.5 years since COVID were rolled back. If he has done nothing to sell about himself, he's just lazy.

I'm his mother and I'm not going to disagree with your appraisal. Now that we have that out of the way, how does he get a good job with a practically vacant resume and one month from earning an Ivy League bachelor's degree?

Starbucks or equivelant while he searches for something more substantive.

Why do you keep pushing Starbucks? Have you never heard of temp agencies? Those pay better wages if you have skills and get you into offices where you can make connections.

Exactly what qualifications or experience would make a temp agency want to take this person on?

There are only about 13,000 Ivy League bachelor's degrees minted each year out of about 1.9 million bachelor's nationwide. Of course someone as successful as you ( ) doesn't value an Ivy League degree, the perception it confers, and the rigor and brainpower it takes to get into the college, but many employers do. Some employers want dibs on students from these universities, even raw ones, and will pay a premium for it. These employers pay multiple times more than the $15 an hour Home Depot and Starbucks pay to any high school graduate who shows up for an interview.

if what you posted is true, then OP's kid should have no problem getting a job, right? And yet, here we are...

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Anonymous wrote:Has he done anything substantive to show interest in his field while in college? Did he do research for a professor? Did he join any professional societies? Intern during the semester anywhere? Work a campus job? A summer job?

It's been 1.5 years since COVID were rolled back. If he has done nothing to sell about himself, he's just lazy.

I'm his mother and I'm not going to disagree with your appraisal. Now that we have that out of the way, how does he get a good job with a practically vacant resume and one month from earning an Ivy League bachelor's degree?

Starbucks or equivelant while he searches for something more substantive.

Why do you keep pushing Starbucks? Have you never heard of temp agencies? Those pay better wages if you have skills and get you into offices where you can make connections.

Exactly what qualifications or experience would make a temp agency want to take this person on?

Any student will have up to date office tech skills.

You understand the Temp industry has changed a little since 1985, right?

Master’s in social work? ABSN?

What is is undergrad degree in? OP hasn’t specified that.

Has he even applied for any jobs? I graduated from UVA in 2015 with a liberal arts degree and while I did have an on-campus internship, it wasn't with a consulting firm or fortune 500 company like many of my peers. I applied for jobs throughout the spring, and although I graduated without an offer, I had one within ~2 weeks of graduating.

I had no idea what I wanted to do, so I targeted jobs with pretty generic skillsets (good communicator, attention to detail, organized, good multitasker, etc.) I noticed that I was getting more "call backs" from jobs in a particular field, so I started focusing my attention there. My first job was as a technical writer, and although I do something different now, the writing role got me into the industry and I learned the path I ultimately wanted to take.

All that to say - have him just start applying. At this point, he needs a job and a HAVING a job will help him find direction, whether it's something he wants to do or not.

He is lazy

Anonymous wrote:He also blamed lack of summer internships on Covid, so his resume has practically nothing on it. Is it truly this difficult to land an offer in this uncertain economy, especially this late in the school year, or is he lying to us? Or is he nearly vacant resume as a graduating senior a huge red flag? He said he has submitted his resume to dozens of posts on the college's online job portal but he never gets responses. I have no way of verifying this.

Such a bizarre thing to say. Do you not believe your son? If not, why? Those are some huge issues, either about your son’s trustworthiness or about your relationship with him.

Maybe ease up on him. Interesting that this young man seems to lack motivation but was able to get into an Ivy League. There is a disconnect here and it’s either a mental health/depression issue and/or a toxic family relationship. You don’t trust him; he’s unmotivated.

Dunno, OP, but you are coming across as really pushy. Also, I really think this post belongs on a parenting board.

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Anonymous wrote:Do a year-long intensive Master’s in Accounting, anywhere, preferably in-person. Apply to internships right before starting it. Will lead automatically lead to at least $75k job starting the fall after graduation.

Wouldn't the student need an accounting or finance undergraduate degree ?

PP here. I know someone who is in one. She is four years out of undergrad at a state flagship & did a biology degree. She took Accounting classes from June to December 2022, did a big 4 internship from January to March of this year, and I think is in classes now until August.

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Anonymous wrote:Do a year-long intensive Master’s in Accounting, anywhere, preferably in-person. Apply to internships right before starting it. Will lead automatically lead to at least $75k job starting the fall after graduation.

Wouldn't the student need an accounting or finance undergraduate degree ?

No I think an economics degree would be sufficient to enter. Depends on the school’s prerequisites & the GPA. A student might be able to take a couple prereqs online beforehand or at a CC.

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Anonymous wrote:Has he done anything substantive to show interest in his field while in college? Did he do research for a professor? Did he join any professional societies? Intern during the semester anywhere? Work a campus job? A summer job?

It's been 1.5 years since COVID were rolled back. If he has done nothing to sell about himself, he's just lazy.

I'm his mother and I'm not going to disagree with your appraisal. Now that we have that out of the way, how does he get a good job with a practically vacant resume and one month from earning an Ivy League bachelor's degree?

Starbucks or equivelant while he searches for something more substantive.

Why do you keep pushing Starbucks? Have you never heard of temp agencies? Those pay better wages if you have skills and get you into offices where you can make connections.

Exactly what qualifications or experience would make a temp agency want to take this person on?

Any student will have up to date office tech skills.

People say that but I have worked with recent college grads who have no clue how to use office technology, both software and hardware.

Generally speaking temp agencies aren’t picky though. I’m sure he’d be good enough to learn on the job.

Just apply for jobs and see what turns up. Be willing to work entry level, work hard and hustle..

It will be fine but hoping he doesn’t bring the whiff of entitlement that is in the OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Has he done anything substantive to show interest in his field while in college? Did he do research for a professor? Did he join any professional societies? Intern during the semester anywhere? Work a campus job? A summer job?

It's been 1.5 years since COVID were rolled back. If he has done nothing to sell about himself, he's just lazy.

I'm his mother and I'm not going to disagree with your appraisal. Now that we have that out of the way, how does he get a good job with a practically vacant resume and one month from earning an Ivy League bachelor's degree?

They apply for jobs. What’s so hard about that?