Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As the U.S. becomes increasingly non-white, unmarried and LGBTQ. What’s the plan to attract young women to the party?
The US is mostly white, married, and straight. Just because there are more that are not, there will never be a majority --- Latinos will join the GOP at roughlyt the same percentage as whites so I am not too concerned.
You are living in a fantasy land. Last election would have been a republican landslide except for the idiot Trump -- same with the election before.
Long term is looking good.
The question should be asked about democrats though. Progressive wing likely to break off from the party.
THIS ^^. And frankly, Democrats/progressives just continue to make fools of themselves, as we see on one college campus after another, in city after city full of horrific rising crime, and at the border, which is a disaster. The title of this thread should be, "Is the Democratic party worried about its survival?" They should be.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
DJT WAS PRESIDENT
And the abortion bans making their way through red states suggest that perhaps this is not all theater, after all.
We got Obamacare when Dems were in charge. We lost our reproductive rights when Rs were.
I haven't seen the latest polling, but I remember reading several years ago that the younger generations were far more against abortion than their parents.
I'm not sure what you read, but this is what recent polling shows: https://news.gallup.com/poll/246206/abortion-trends-age.aspx
Much higher levels of support for people under 30.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
DJT WAS PRESIDENT
And the abortion bans making their way through red states suggest that perhaps this is not all theater, after all.
We got Obamacare when Dems were in charge. We lost our reproductive rights when Rs were.
I haven't seen the latest polling, but I remember reading several years ago that the younger generations were far more against abortion than their parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
DJT WAS PRESIDENT
And the abortion bans making their way through red states suggest that perhaps this is not all theater, after all.
We got Obamacare when Dems were in charge. We lost our reproductive rights when Rs were.
I haven't seen the latest polling, but I remember reading several years ago that the younger generations were far more against abortion than their parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As the U.S. becomes increasingly non-white, unmarried and LGBTQ. What’s the plan to attract young women to the party?
I have faith (not in a religious sense, but in a deeply cynical political sense) the the Republican strategy of appealing to rural voters, and therefore taking advantage in the advantage granted to the least populous states in the Senate, will continue to pay huge dividends under the American political system. Either party needs both houses and the presidency to effectively legislate “wants.” You only need one house to say “no” to the other party. So the Rs just bide their time and take their shots when they can. And they’re patient. They’ve been playing this game a long time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
DJT WAS PRESIDENT
And the abortion bans making their way through red states suggest that perhaps this is not all theater, after all.
We got Obamacare when Dems were in charge. We lost our reproductive rights when Rs were.
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are making the biggest blunder in history with open border policies:
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113166779/hispanic-and-minority-voters-are-increasingly-shifting-to-the-republican-party
https://www.wsj.com/story/why-hispanic-voters-are-shifting-toward-the-republican-party-1add04ef
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/opinions/republican-latino-voters-gest/index.html
https://twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1455957751075573767
The quote in the WSJ hits the nail in the head - Dems are untethered from the realities that affect people the most and care too much about race, increase crime, and attack family values. That's why Latinos are moving to the GOP. Keep on selling race and identity Dems. What a fantastic way to win elections, by creating a never ending story of factionalism and tribal warfare between identity groups. Meanwhile people care about inflation. But at least Biden is jamming crap down our throats like ESG in investment decisions......as that affects anyone on main street in their daily lives versus all of the crime and inflation that's exploding under Democrats' watch.
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are making the biggest blunder in history with open border policies:
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/23/1113166779/hispanic-and-minority-voters-are-increasingly-shifting-to-the-republican-party
https://www.wsj.com/story/why-hispanic-voters-are-shifting-toward-the-republican-party-1add04ef
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/14/opinions/republican-latino-voters-gest/index.html
https://twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1455957751075573767
The quote in the WSJ hits the nail in the head - Dems are untethered from the realities that affect people the most and care too much about race, increase crime, and attack family values. That's why Latinos are moving to the GOP. Keep on selling race and identity Dems. What a fantastic way to win elections, by creating a never ending story of factionalism and tribal warfare between identity groups. Meanwhile people care about inflation. But at least Biden is jamming crap down our throats like ESG in investment decisions......as that affects anyone on main street in their daily lives versus all of the crime and inflation that's exploding under Democrats' watch.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As the U.S. becomes increasingly non-white, unmarried and LGBTQ. What’s the plan to attract young women to the party?
The US is mostly white, married, and straight. Just because there are more that are not, there will never be a majority --- Latinos will join the GOP at roughlyt the same percentage as whites so I am not too concerned.
You are living in a fantasy land. Last election would have been a republican landslide except for the idiot Trump -- same with the election before.
Long term is looking good.
The question should be asked about democrats though. Progressive wing likely to break off from the party.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
DJT WAS PRESIDENT
And the abortion bans making their way through red states suggest that perhaps this is not all theater, after all.
We got Obamacare when Dems were in charge. We lost our reproductive rights when Rs were.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
DJT WAS PRESIDENT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
And what about the more bat$hit crazy the Republicans get? I mean come off it. MTG and DJT are the leaders of the GOP right now. Cray cray.
I consider myself a reasonable person. Everyone who knows me considers me a reasonable person. I would NEVER EVER in a million lifetimes join a party that accepted those two whackadoodles as leaders. Never mind Boebert and Matt Goetz and Paul Gosar. And the Christian nationalists who want to us to become a theocracy. And the closeted politicians and activists trying to take away marriage equality.
Please, tell us how moderate Democrats are going to flock to a party that wants to make abortion illegal FROM CONCEPTION. And to force 10 year olds to go through pregnancy. And to force women to go to term with dying, deformed fetuses. No way moderates are going to say, hey, no biggie, and vote for that.
Joe Biden is a moderate. If you think he is a raging leftist, you are far-right-leaning conservative. So you've exposed yourself.
MTG and DJT totally have sway over what legislation gets introduced into congress. They can whip up all the party votes they need!
The GOP is going to build Trump's wall tomorrow tomorrow! They're going to end the vote for women! They're going to make it illegal to be LGBTQ+! It's going to be the Taliban 2.0!
Thats totally what the GOP donors want! And what the donors want is what the donors get!
MAGA
Yes, the MAGA seems to be pulling strings right now, that is for certain. You are not making a good case for becoming Republican! Until you kick out the MAGA, no thanks.
I'm pointing out that the crazies have zero effect on policy.
DJT and MTG are a show for the rubes.
And the same people fund both parties. The whole GOP/dem conflict is just a show.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of either party, both are dominated by their extremists.
But to worry about GOP survival is weird. They came close to winning 2020 and won the majority of house votes cast in 2022.
The GOP does have a bizarre obsession with extreme abortion rights (not quite offset by the Democrats' bizarre obsession with trans rights and cruel indifference to the border crisis and identity politics that is more divisive than healing). But you might ask yourself why the Democrats, if they're so much better, apparently, aren't blowing out the GOP in every election?
I daresay most Americans would be happy for both parties to completely self destruct and start over from scratch.
Uh - no. I think Dems are, on the whole, doing a pretty good job in a pretty hard circumstance. I am not interested in blowing everything up and starting again. There's no both sides here; no, we all made mistakes.
Disagree. The Democrats own the border crisis. They stood by and did nothing as millions poured over the border. The Democrats pushed progressive policies in major urban areas that have seen a corresponding explosion of crime and murders and violence. The various infrastructure and stimulus bills definitely fueled inflation. They are the public face of highly divisive identity politics pitting people against people. They have a lackluster record of supporting basic concepts like freedom of speech or press (as the twitter files revealed), which, if anything, are basic rights the party no longer values. The cronyism between the Democrats and legacy media and much of the Federal bureaucracy is disturbing. The rush to support trans right without seriously analyzing the long term implications for children's wellbeing with something they don't fully understand has been unhealthy and unproductive.
If you really want to understand why the Democrats are so despised by the 48% or so of Americans, try to step outside your bubble a bit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not at all.
The more bat$hit crazy the Democrats get, the more comfortable I am, as a Republican, that reasonable Democrats will start to defect from the Democratic Party.
Walk Away, if you will.
Democrats seem to be all about government censorship, government control, demonizing law enforcement, over turning Constitutional Amendments, open borders, and supporting teachers unions - NOT supporting parents and students.
Joe Biden's presidency is the cause of reasonable Democrats and classical liberals to rethink their affiliation with the Democratic Party.
wow. talk about projecting.
I'm sorry, who is it banning books and controlling medical care for women and trans people?
Nobody is banning books. I am fine with making sure certain books are not available in school libraries. That is not banning.
Placing limits on abortion? I am all for it. The life inside the woman matters.
And, who is limiting care for trans people? You think that CHILDREN should have life changing medication and surgical procedures when are not of the age of consent?
This is why the the GOP can't attract the young voters. They are supposed to vote for the folks who offer them LESS rights than their moms? The folks that take the the books their mom could read are trash them? The folks that won't take global warming seriously? The folks that want their gay friends and family to have KESS rights? It makes no sense to them.
I'm old enough to remember all the proclamations that the GOP was losing the young voters.... back in the 1990s. Flash forward 30 years and where are we? Oh! The GOP is still around. With even more female congressmen and senators and governors than 30 years ago.
You just don't know young people outside your cultural bubble. Or anyone outside your cultural bubble, when you get down to it.
Youth Prefer Democrats by 28-Point Margin
According to the Edison Research National Election Pool exit poll, the national youth vote choice for the U.S. House of Representatives was 63% for Democrats, 35% for Republicans. That’s almost identical to 2020, when youth preferred Democrats to Republicans by 62% to 36%, and a small shift in favor of Republicans from the previous midterm: in 2018, the youth vote between Democrats and Republicans was 67% to 32%—which was the largest margin ever for Democrats among young voters.