Anonymous
03/29/2023 13:06
Subject: Re:Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
Mate, I used to code HTML by hand using Notepad and got paid so, so, so much to do that. Now I don't and nobody else does either. I used to be on teams of people that worked together to build web based applications. front end, middle tier, databases, business analysts, QA/QC. Teams of 20 are now teams of two or three. AI coding "teammates" are not new to us. They are new to you.
It does not worry me at all that the neighborhood donut shop owner can now whip up an app with an AI. That guy wasn't going to hire me in the first place.
But when something has to be right, when there must be liability insurance, when there are laws the need to be obeyed, then people will be hired. Those people will use whatever tools are available as always. And, if the tools allow them to do more better and faster then they will deliver more better and faster because of competition.
It does not worry me at all that the neighborhood donut shop owner can now whip up an app with an AI. That guy wasn't going to hire me in the first place.
But when something has to be right, when there must be liability insurance, when there are laws the need to be obeyed, then people will be hired. Those people will use whatever tools are available as always. And, if the tools allow them to do more better and faster then they will deliver more better and faster because of competition.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 13:05
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
Anonymous wrote:My guess is that most posters on here are UMC with both parents working in law, government or government contracting business with relatively comfortable income although I think there are some teachers and professors as well.
I have been on DCUM for about 18 years and I get the sense that most people on here do not realize the ramifications of advanced technology or the current AI as well as the AI that will come in the next few years. I think AI will be more profound than the Internet. Millions of people will be affected and millions of jobs will be eliminated or reduced in hours/roles.
Large law partners and those making 600-900K/ year w/ millions in savings/assets will NOT care one bit but you should because your children will definitely have to deal with it for the rest of their lives.
AKA Most posters lack the basic scientific foundation to adequately grasp certain subjects including the event horizon that will be the advanced AI.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 13:04
Subject: Re:Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
For the mundane my macro group has some people using ChatGPT to create daily meal plans and then exporting them to an excel for a grocery list. It does work and gives a framework but doesn't get to the nitty gritty.
Heres the problem,
for example the ChatGPT says sauteed spinach as a side for dinner. Sauteed spinach requires something else- broth, butter, oil, etc. That wasn't included in the list.
Im sure that can be tweaked but its not a perfect system by any means.
Any automated customer service is automatically bypassed by me. It isn't effective. Asks narrow questions, circular logic. You cant just say I need X for Y and when is Z shipping? A human can answer those more efficiently.
Heres the problem,
for example the ChatGPT says sauteed spinach as a side for dinner. Sauteed spinach requires something else- broth, butter, oil, etc. That wasn't included in the list.
Im sure that can be tweaked but its not a perfect system by any means.
Any automated customer service is automatically bypassed by me. It isn't effective. Asks narrow questions, circular logic. You cant just say I need X for Y and when is Z shipping? A human can answer those more efficiently.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 12:57
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
My guess is that most posters on here are UMC with both parents working in law, government or government contracting business with relatively comfortable income although I think there are some teachers and professors as well.
I have been on DCUM for about 18 years and I get the sense that most people on here do not realize the ramifications of advanced technology or the current AI as well as the AI that will come in the next few years. I think AI will be more profound than the Internet. Millions of people will be affected and millions of jobs will be eliminated or reduced in hours/roles.
Large law partners and those making 600-900K/ year w/ millions in savings/assets will NOT care one bit but you should because your children will definitely have to deal with it for the rest of their lives.
I have been on DCUM for about 18 years and I get the sense that most people on here do not realize the ramifications of advanced technology or the current AI as well as the AI that will come in the next few years. I think AI will be more profound than the Internet. Millions of people will be affected and millions of jobs will be eliminated or reduced in hours/roles.
Large law partners and those making 600-900K/ year w/ millions in savings/assets will NOT care one bit but you should because your children will definitely have to deal with it for the rest of their lives.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 12:32
Subject: Re:Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
We are on version 4 of chat GPT. I definitely would not expect a bunch of parents on here to understand the broader ramifications of all this. Do you not get the rapid evolution we are seeing from AI? How do you know get the existential issues here?
Anonymous
03/29/2023 12:30
Subject: Re:Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
What the f kind of world are our kids inheriting? Don’t give me the Luddite crap. This is about machines that can learn and basically will soon be able to do lots better than humans.
Will our kids just give up on learning as AI writes their papers? Or will they become lazy and rely on it for everything?
I think a lot of people here are fking clueless about what this portends for the future.
We willl remember this year as the first incarnation of chat GPT and it’ll take off the same way we grew up before the internet and can remember the “before” time.
Simply put, our kids are going to inherit a vey confusing difficult world where nations compete to have the best AI. There is no putting this genie back in the bottle. We are fked.
Will our kids just give up on learning as AI writes their papers? Or will they become lazy and rely on it for everything?
I think a lot of people here are fking clueless about what this portends for the future.
We willl remember this year as the first incarnation of chat GPT and it’ll take off the same way we grew up before the internet and can remember the “before” time.
Simply put, our kids are going to inherit a vey confusing difficult world where nations compete to have the best AI. There is no putting this genie back in the bottle. We are fked.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 08:25
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
after reading the previous posts of what the AI generated for song lyrics and "how to get into an elite univ", I don't think I'll worry quite yet.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 08:22
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
Anonymous wrote:Thank god my kid is majoring in AI.
I use ChatGBT, Bing and Bard on a daily basis and it's the most transformative technology I have seen since they launched the WWW and email. Sadly I was alive to witness that as a professional! That said, these tools get a lot of stuff wrong in almost comical ways (silly code syntax for example) you have to know what to do to correct it but it saves like 90 percent of the effort. And once they improve it, I can start replacing people. So. Yeah, its going to be big.
Very simple requirements are easy for AI to figure out. But, for more complex systems, someone needs to write a requirements doc based on several team's input; there are a lot of use cases and scenarios that need to be documented. You cannot just feed the AI a one liner for complex systems and expect it to produce what you need.
I recall a very long time ago, the CEO who is a tech person, said they wanted a system to do x. That's all they said.."the system should just do x". So, the development team went off and wrote a system to do x and presented it to the CEO. But, the system wasn't designed quite right, per the CEO. It did x, but there were a whole lot of things that needed to happen around x that was not documented or developed. But, the CEO (being busy and not interested in gathering all the requirements) didn't mention all the things that needed to happen around x. But, they got what they asked for... "the system should just do x".
Basically, garbage in, garbage out.
Anonymous
03/29/2023 07:34
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ChatGPT comes for radio- Plus, NPR braces for layoffs.
NPR did not respond to Hot Pod’s request on the timing of the layoffs. I’ll have more for Insiders later this week on the extent of the cuts.
RadioGPT makes it easy to replace human DJs with bots
That’s very reassuring, given the state of radio. Axios Cleveland reports that local business Futuri has launched a product called RadioGPT, which can theoretically do most of the work of manning a radio station without human labor.
According to the website, it uses GPT-4-powered bots that can perform interstitial chats about the music lineup, local weather, and news and even field listener comments and questions. RadioGPT can also do tasks that would otherwise be the domain of interns and entry-level staffers, like creating complimentary blog posts, converting live shows into podcasts, and social media.
But the listeners....will they tune in to listen to a bot?
They sound better and more pleasant than humans.
Anonymous
03/28/2023 22:13
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
and to understand how the disciplines interplayAnonymous wrote:I think that a true liberal arts education will be even more important to teach students how to learn and be adaptable
Anonymous
03/28/2023 22:11
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
and less celebrities skiing into othersAnonymous wrote:One funny thing with these generative AIs is we do not need MODELS or actors. We can create better looking models/actors who can smile better and act better and virtually frww! Will Hollywood disappear?
Anonymous
03/28/2023 22:03
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
Anonymous wrote:I asked : write a funny poem for DCUM posters anxiously awaiting acceptance decisions (note I deliberately left out "college' and said 'acceptances' only to see what might happen)
GPT: Oh, DCUM posters, how you fret and fuss,
Waiting for acceptance, it's driving you nuts!
You check your email every hour on the hour,
Hoping for good news, but it's turning sour.
You've studied hard, you've done your best,
But now you're feeling quite distressed.
Will you get in? Will you be denied?
The waiting game is making you fried.
You refresh the page, you check your phone,
You're starting to feel like you're all alone.
But fear not, dear posters, for the news will come,
And when it does, you'll feel like you've won.
So take a deep breath, and try to relax,
Don't let the waiting give you panic attacks.
You've done all you can, you've given your all,
And soon enough, you'll hear the call.
So keep your chin up, and don't lose hope,
You're all amazing, and you'll find a way to cope.
And when the acceptance letter finally arrives,
You'll be over the moon, and your joy will thrive.
So hang in there, DCUM posters, and don't despair,
The news will come, and you'll soon be aware.
And when you finally get that acceptance letter,
You'll know that all your hard work made you better!
That’s not funny.
Anonymous
03/28/2023 22:01
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
No, because the business runs on intellectual property. You cannot call anything created by Ai unique. Copyright law would shift and the residual money - the mainstay of careers - would disappear. Hollywood --and the unions--would never let it happen
Do you think businesses call all work by employees "IP"? LOL. It's called forward progress and companies will use whatever fosters that which is not illegal (and AI is trained not to infringe on copyright).
Anonymous
03/28/2023 21:58
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
Thank god my kid is majoring in AI.
I use ChatGBT, Bing and Bard on a daily basis and it's the most transformative technology I have seen since they launched the WWW and email. Sadly I was alive to witness that as a professional! That said, these tools get a lot of stuff wrong in almost comical ways (silly code syntax for example) you have to know what to do to correct it but it saves like 90 percent of the effort. And once they improve it, I can start replacing people. So. Yeah, its going to be big.
I use ChatGBT, Bing and Bard on a daily basis and it's the most transformative technology I have seen since they launched the WWW and email. Sadly I was alive to witness that as a professional! That said, these tools get a lot of stuff wrong in almost comical ways (silly code syntax for example) you have to know what to do to correct it but it saves like 90 percent of the effort. And once they improve it, I can start replacing people. So. Yeah, its going to be big.
Anonymous
03/28/2023 20:00
Subject: Generative AI set to affect 300 million jobs across major economies
These write x like y prove its good what it was designed to be - a language processor. It can easily switch up styles it writes in a variety of formats. But look at how to get into a top 20 college essay. It doesn't understand what it is being asked and cant provide real bespoke advice or answer follow up questions well. The question is how quickly do we bridge that gap?