Many MCPS high schools have decided to drop Leader in me next year. Instead they are opting to try a MCPS home-grown SEL curriculum instead. Is this happening in middle and elementary schools as well?

Anonymous wrote:I don't know enough about LiM to have a strong opinion on it, but what I saw of it made me think it was too surface-level and childish to have an impact on the middle and high schoolers who needed meaningful SEL most.

I think MCPS has correctly identified SEL as a student need, but I am not convinced they have the human or curriculum resources in place to actually do anything meaningful in that area. And so MCPS would be smart to do something that works rather than waste time, energy and goodwill on something they can a check a box on that everyone ignores or rolls their eyes at, which seemed to be the case with LiM.

Agreed! SEL is a need but LIM is NOT SEL curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:This person is obviously a troll or is brain dead.

I know! They keep speaking poorly about this program that everyone seems to love and have 0 facts to back it up.

Ahh there you are again, posting as multiple people. We're still waiting for you to name the school that EVERYONE was SOOOO inspired by LiM. It'll never happen.

Anonymous wrote:This person is obviously a troll or is brain dead.

I know! They keep speaking poorly about this program that everyone seems to love and have 0 facts to back it up.

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Anonymous wrote:The rumor I heard is that the Rockville High principal wants to continue even though most staff are against it.

Everyone I know wants to continue. It's just the vocal minority of LiM haters that are against it.

I'm an administrator and only know of one school out of several clusters that is interested in continuing LIM. I'd be concerned if my staff were adamant about continuing this nonsense.

You must not get out much. Everyone I've spoken with in person thinks it's a fabulous program. What's odd to me is the only place I 've heard anything negative is here.

I don’t believe this for a minute. Nobody I know has had a single good thing to say about it. Please tell us what everyone finds fabulous about it.

I do because it's the same at our school. Everyone thinks it's a fine program, and the only time I hear anything negative is from the obsessed poster who is constantly talking about it here.

Still waiting to hear what everyone loves about it.

It was such an inspiration and the kids just loved it.

My kids liked it too. Was a great program! Wish they did more things like this.

I don't know enough about LiM to have a strong opinion on it, but what I saw of it made me think it was too surface-level and childish to have an impact on the middle and high schoolers who needed meaningful SEL most.

I think MCPS has correctly identified SEL as a student need, but I am not convinced they have the human or curriculum resources in place to actually do anything meaningful in that area. And so MCPS would be smart to do something that works rather than waste time, energy and goodwill on something they can a check a box on that everyone ignores or rolls their eyes at, which seemed to be the case with LiM.

Name the school you’re at where everyone and the kids loved it and were so inspired by it. Back up your claim with some facts we can verify by speaking with other educators and families at the school. I know… we’ll be waiting forever because this didn’t happen.

This person is obviously a troll or is brain dead.

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Anonymous wrote:The rumor I heard is that the Rockville High principal wants to continue even though most staff are against it.

Everyone I know wants to continue. It's just the vocal minority of LiM haters that are against it.

I'm an administrator and only know of one school out of several clusters that is interested in continuing LIM. I'd be concerned if my staff were adamant about continuing this nonsense.

You must not get out much. Everyone I've spoken with in person thinks it's a fabulous program. What's odd to me is the only place I 've heard anything negative is here.

I don’t believe this for a minute. Nobody I know has had a single good thing to say about it. Please tell us what everyone finds fabulous about it.

I do because it's the same at our school. Everyone thinks it's a fine program, and the only time I hear anything negative is from the obsessed poster who is constantly talking about it here.

Still waiting to hear what everyone loves about it.

It was such an inspiration and the kids just loved it.

Nope, going to need something a little more specific. Otherwise you have proven yourself to be either a troll or someone schilling for the company.

My perspective as a high school teacher
Problems:
1. Training was bad
2. Poor test rollout with little effort to fix the issues
3. Training cont. to be bad and rollout continued to other schools with little support.
4. Admin ignored it, shunting it to advisory periods where all county initiatives go to die.
5. Staff never had proper training and buy in. The fact is we are professionals in our subject areas and not much else. Not many really feel comfortable in another role.
6. SEL and leadership training works well in small or self contained settings not in middle school and high schools large classrooms.
7. Students are really good BS detectors and knew right away that this was talking down to them.

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Anonymous wrote:The rumor I heard is that the Rockville High principal wants to continue even though most staff are against it.

Everyone I know wants to continue. It's just the vocal minority of LiM haters that are against it.

I'm an administrator and only know of one school out of several clusters that is interested in continuing LIM. I'd be concerned if my staff were adamant about continuing this nonsense.

You must not get out much. Everyone I've spoken with in person thinks it's a fabulous program. What's odd to me is the only place I 've heard anything negative is here.

I don’t believe this for a minute. Nobody I know has had a single good thing to say about it. Please tell us what everyone finds fabulous about it.

I do because it's the same at our school. Everyone thinks it's a fine program, and the only time I hear anything negative is from the obsessed poster who is constantly talking about it here.

Still waiting to hear what everyone loves about it.

It was such an inspiration and the kids just loved it.

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Anonymous wrote:The rumor I heard is that the Rockville High principal wants to continue even though most staff are against it.

Everyone I know wants to continue. It's just the vocal minority of LiM haters that are against it.

I'm an administrator and only know of one school out of several clusters that is interested in continuing LIM. I'd be concerned if my staff were adamant about continuing this nonsense.

You must not get out much. Everyone I've spoken with in person thinks it's a fabulous program. What's odd to me is the only place I 've heard anything negative is here.

I don’t believe this for a minute. Nobody I know has had a single good thing to say about it. Please tell us what everyone finds fabulous about it.

I do because it's the same at our school. Everyone thinks it's a fine program, and the only time I hear anything negative is from the obsessed poster who is constantly talking about it here.

Still waiting to hear what everyone loves about it.

You're the only person I've ever heard who has good things to say...with your endless posts pretending to be different people who "love" the program. It's a terrible program. Everyone knows it.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, our principal told us that schools now have a choice whether or not to continue with LIM. We never really implemented it at my school due to staff concerns around the program so thankfully, no summer LIM Kool-Aid sipping for me!

So you never gave it a fair chance and post complaints about it without having even tried it?

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Anonymous wrote:The rumor I heard is that the Rockville High principal wants to continue even though most staff are against it.

Everyone I know wants to continue. It's just the vocal minority of LiM haters that are against it.

I'm an administrator and only know of one school out of several clusters that is interested in continuing LIM. I'd be concerned if my staff were adamant about continuing this nonsense.

You must not get out much. Everyone I've spoken with in person thinks it's a fabulous program. What's odd to me is the only place I 've heard anything negative is here.

I don’t believe this for a minute. Nobody I know has had a single good thing to say about it. Please tell us what everyone finds fabulous about it.

I do because it's the same at our school. Everyone thinks it's a fine program, and the only time I hear anything negative is from the obsessed poster who is constantly talking about it here.