Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:43
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was an English major. Now I’m a lawyer and I write a lot. I don’t think my major was useless but I guess wtf do I know?
Same. 90% of my job is reading for comprehension and reading very, very fast.
It's apparent from what I read that grammar is no longer taught in schools.
+1 It's also apparent from this message board that reading comprehension is no longer taught, not well, at least.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:43
Subject: Re:Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the main issue that this post highlights is that higher education should be more affordable, not that we need to eliminate liberal arts and humanities from college studies. There is societal value in having an educated populace but individuals should not have to go into personal debt for it.
Community college.
Affordable.
Colleges are looking at ROI for students, because people are going into debt as a ......theatre major?? If the parents are not going to consider the student's future, the schools are.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:43
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If OPhad bothered to read the first entry they would know that Low enrollment was the cause of Marymount’s decision
But OP thinks English isn’t valuable. Lol
Considering OP is probably from a Russian troll farm, that tracks.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:42
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:If OPhad bothered to read the first entry they would know that Low enrollment was the cause of Marymount’s decision
But OP thinks English isn’t valuable. Lol
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:42
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was an English major. Now I’m a lawyer and I write a lot. I don’t think my major was useless but I guess wtf do I know?
You don't need English major to go to a law school, and become a lawyer.
Law school is necessity to become a lawyer, English major is not.
That is not at all what the poster is saying. Can you read?
PP’s seem to be saying that humanities lead to law school. How many lawyers do we need?
That's not what they said at all. They were saying that English majors learn valuable skills that are transferable to other fields, for instance, law.
Also, if we have no English majors, who will teach English classes? Will that no longer be a HS graduation requirement? At some point, will reading be eliminated from the curriculum also?
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:42
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ChatGpt replaces the need for english majors, except for them to work on the chatgpt engine
If only ChatGPT, could write well, but it still has a long way to go...
AI will be funneling into almost ALL majors, including CS and Engineering, before too long. Any job that is not eliminated completely, will have far, far, far fewer positions in the future. I don't think most people realize the implications of AI.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:38
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:ChatGpt replaces the need for english majors, except for them to work on the chatgpt engine
If only ChatGPT, could write well, but it still has a long way to go...
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:35
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:I think it makes sense for schools to eliminate degrees that few students are pursing. Degree programs and departments are costs to maintain and if students aren't pursing those studies it doesn't make sense to continue spending on them vs. programs that consistently have students. They can direct funding to those departments and provide a better experience.
I also had to laugh with people outraged that Marymount would cut the Religion major. As a Catholic, if a person is going to pursue a religious life, it's not about getting a college degree in religion and has little bearing on someone's ability to become a priest or a nun.
Isn't that what seminary is for?
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:34
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:I was an English major. Now I’m a lawyer and I write a lot. I don’t think my major was useless but I guess wtf do I know?
Same. 90% of my job is reading for comprehension and reading very, very fast.
It's apparent from what I read that grammar is no longer taught in schools.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:31
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:We have this argument every few weeks, doesn’t everyone get tired of it?
I was a government major, my husband English. We have always had very solid middle class lives and our jobs are in demand.
My kids are also more skilled in the writing, communications, analysis, areas and are social science majors. Neither will have any trouble getting a job, and a well paying one at that.
I was just with an association CEO recently who was an English major, and now probably makes about $450k. I don’t know why people who are obsessed with Cs believe that the whole world needs to pursue a career in that field. There are a lot of jobs out there that actually make the world go around, even running tech companies, that do not require a tech degree.
I have helped a nonprofit hire STEM grads for their entry level job. Nothing is sadder than a bio or Chem grad that decides research isn’t the career for them. These kids are making $45k out of college. Not worth pursuing those degrees in my mind.
I was with you until you made a weird comment about STEM majors. What's sad about that? That entry level salary is similar to what humanities kids might make in their first job as well. I'm surprised that nobody argued with the idea that "it's not worth pursuing degree in chemistry and biology." Imagine a world without HS science teachers, medicine and healthcare workers (I know a STEM degree isn't required for pre-med and nursing is it's own separate major but you cannot deny the bio/chem pipeline to healthcare jobs), food and agricultural advances, public health, patent lawyers, biomedical researchers finding cures and developing treatments for life-threatening afflictions, ecologists working to protect and conserve the environment, etc. On a thread arguing for the inherent value and applications of liberal arts majors, I hope nobody is seriously denigrating the worth of STEM majors.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:31
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
I think it makes sense for schools to eliminate degrees that few students are pursing. Degree programs and departments are costs to maintain and if students aren't pursing those studies it doesn't make sense to continue spending on them vs. programs that consistently have students. They can direct funding to those departments and provide a better experience.
I also had to laugh with people outraged that Marymount would cut the Religion major. As a Catholic, if a person is going to pursue a religious life, it's not about getting a college degree in religion and has little bearing on someone's ability to become a priest or a nun.
I also had to laugh with people outraged that Marymount would cut the Religion major. As a Catholic, if a person is going to pursue a religious life, it's not about getting a college degree in religion and has little bearing on someone's ability to become a priest or a nun.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:30
Subject: Re:Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:I think the main issue that this post highlights is that higher education should be more affordable, not that we need to eliminate liberal arts and humanities from college studies. There is societal value in having an educated populace but individuals should not have to go into personal debt for it.
Community college.
Affordable.
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:27
Subject: Re:Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the main issue that this post highlights is that higher education should be more affordable, not that we need to eliminate liberal arts and humanities from college studies. There is societal value in having an educated populace but individuals should not have to go into personal debt for it.
Maybe they should charge more for majors more in demand and less for humanities.
This already happens.
Oh that's right
UVA already started this
Charging more for Engineering school and Business school
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:25
Subject: Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I was an English major. Now I’m a lawyer and I write a lot. I don’t think my major was useless but I guess wtf do I know?
You don't need English major to go to a law school, and become a lawyer.
Law school is necessity to become a lawyer, English major is not.
That is not at all what the poster is saying. Can you read?
that may be the issue....
Anonymous
03/17/2023 10:25
Subject: Re:Colleges removing useless majors
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the main issue that this post highlights is that higher education should be more affordable, not that we need to eliminate liberal arts and humanities from college studies. There is societal value in having an educated populace but individuals should not have to go into personal debt for it.
Maybe they should charge more for majors more in demand and less for humanities.
This already happens.