Anonymous wrote:It really does boggle the mind. How did the party that strived for limited government for decades suddenly swing so far to being an authoritarian party that strives to impose its morale and political opinions onto everyone, across a spectrum of issues? And the blatant hypocrisy of demanding government stay out of their decisions and away from their bodies when it comes to their own personal beliefs, such as with vaccines, but demanding government interfere with people’s decisions and bodies when it comes to what they believe is right?
I used to be a moderate swing voter, and voted for Republicans just as much as Democrats over the years. But I just can’t vote Republican now, even though I may want their conservancy on some issues. I don’t trust them anymore not to suddenly take away rights just because that’s their own opinion, the hell with what anyone else thinks or what is democratic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
That you think Newsweek is still mainstream media is quite telling.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/11/04/newsweek-embraces-anti-democracy-hard-right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
You sound like Sen. Eastland of Mississippi when he blocked a federal anti-lynching law from coming to the Senate for a vote. “Lynching is murder so it is already illegal in state law so we should trust the states to handle it.” Then Eastland suggested amendments to include “race riots” and “gang violence” in the definition of lynching.
come on, that's silly
look at those links and tell me you think "white supremacy" still means something
if it meant "Nazis" I might feel differently
Except it isn't silly, and when you label it as such, it either shows your ignorance, hate or disrespect. You are entitled to your opinion, but history happened, it was documents and it can be demonstrated. The idea is to not repeat it, and when people like you are shown comparisons with obvious parallels and it is dismissed as being silly, then you are missing the point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
That you think Newsweek is still mainstream media is quite telling.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/11/04/newsweek-embraces-anti-democracy-hard-right
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
You sound like Sen. Eastland of Mississippi when he blocked a federal anti-lynching law from coming to the Senate for a vote. “Lynching is murder so it is already illegal in state law so we should trust the states to handle it.” Then Eastland suggested amendments to include “race riots” and “gang violence” in the definition of lynching.
come on, that's silly
look at those links and tell me you think "white supremacy" still means something
if it meant "Nazis" I might feel differently
Anonymous wrote:Americans hate each other, and have for some time now. There are absolutely no nationally unifying symbols or ideas anymore. Not Thanksgiving, not the founding fathers, not football, not the flag.
When there is that much hate, then each group will want to use governmental power against their enemies, and we see exactly that from the right and the left because they see the other side as enemies with nothing in common and not fellow Americans.
Anonymous wrote:I’m constantly amazed at how much Trump is hated, to the point where people would rather die then keep an open mind. It’s delusional!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/
You sound like Sen. Eastland of Mississippi when he blocked a federal anti-lynching law from coming to the Senate for a vote. “Lynching is murder so it is already illegal in state law so we should trust the states to handle it.” Then Eastland suggested amendments to include “race riots” and “gang violence” in the definition of lynching.
Anonymous wrote:Americans hate each other, and have for some time now. There are absolutely no nationally unifying symbols or ideas anymore. Not Thanksgiving, not the founding fathers, not football, not the flag.
When there is that much hate, then each group will want to use governmental power against their enemies, and we see exactly that from the right and the left because they see the other side as enemies with nothing in common and not fellow Americans.
Anonymous wrote:Americans hate each other, and have for some time now. There are absolutely no nationally unifying symbols or ideas anymore. Not Thanksgiving, not the founding fathers, not football, not the flag.
When there is that much hate, then each group will want to use governmental power against their enemies, and we see exactly that from the right and the left because they see the other side as enemies with nothing in common and not fellow Americans.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As far as I can tell, Rs are authoritarian when it comes to abortion and for many people that is the defining voting issue. But outside abortion, ehh...
On the other hand, when it came to covid, censorship, media suppression, fact checking, DEI, trans right over women's rights, politicization of education, the Democrats are definitely authoritarian. You just don't notice because you agree with it. The Twitter files made it clear Democratic authorities eagerly embraced state sanctioned censorship and using private enterprises to censor on behalf of the government.
Between the two parties, the Ds are certainly the far more authoritarian of the two and much more ideological in lock step. The Rs don't have the political or cultural power the Democrats do so they don't have the power to be authoritarian.
Remember MGT arguing that people moving to Georgia shouldn't be allowed to vote? Remember the bill introduced in Florida to dissolve the democratic party or the bill requiring bloggers who write about elected officials to register with the state?
Has either of those things happened?
There’s a link to one of them on the page before this one. The other one is here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/591585-blaise-ingoglia-bill-would-cancel-democratic-party/
I meant have they been implemented?
or are they just more performances by crazy attention whores that will go nowhere
which is a separate problem in our politics and public culture
They are bills introduced by elected legislatures. If. you think this is a both sides culture things, show bill the other side has introduced
sure, here's one
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/61/text
"anyone who criticizes [stuff I will define as I like] is going to be a criminal"
Did you even read the text that you linked to? It clearly says “white supremacy ideology that motivates a crime” so not sure how you read that as anything but specific.
Sure, just go ahead and define white supremacy for me, cause for some reason I didn’t see a definition in the document, which I did read
Would you say current mainstream discourse defines “white supremacy” as a specific, clearly evil thing?
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rational-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333
https://rrapp.hks.harvard.edu/the-culture-of-white-supremacy-in-organizations/