Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 10:33     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting to me that people who look like they can afford to pay have no shame in stealing. I would be so ashamed with myself to not pay.

I wish there was a way to publicly post pictures of fare dodgers to shame them, but l suspect it would be call racist.


You were raised with an understanding of right and wrong.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2023 07:27     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've started carrying a knife with me the 2x a week I have to go down to Metro Center for work. First time I've felt the need to do that in the 20 years I've lived in DC and used Metro.


You should carry one all the time, they are incredibly useful tools. I find myself using one almost everyday!


As long as you don’t need to enter any federal buildings.


Correct. That's when you leave it in the vehicle, although a few installations frown on you doing that as well.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 19:47     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've started carrying a knife with me the 2x a week I have to go down to Metro Center for work. First time I've felt the need to do that in the 20 years I've lived in DC and used Metro.


Someone starts a fist fight with you or gets in your face screaming and you stab them you’re likely going to jail for a while. I don’t think DC is a jurisdiction that would be particularly sympathetic to some white metro riders claim of self defense using a knife.


Yeah, I'd like to see the jury that would convict someone of that. A large group of teens swarming someone = reasonable fear of one's life. I'll defend my life first and ask questions later.


It’s over with DC juries. You will be under the jail.

I ride the metro daily. Have had teens try to start something twice in the last year and both times just take the L and leave for another car while the pick on some other sap.

And please tell me why you should have to do this?


A person shouldn’t. But self defense can be complex both legally and tactically, making it prudent to avoid the situation when it is possible to do do.

I wouldn’t get on Metro if they paid me.

This is all excellent advice, both the first and second part.

I cannot believe we are back to debating Bernie Goetz scenarios about transit safety in my lifetime.

Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 15:00     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've started carrying a knife with me the 2x a week I have to go down to Metro Center for work. First time I've felt the need to do that in the 20 years I've lived in DC and used Metro.


Someone starts a fist fight with you or gets in your face screaming and you stab them you’re likely going to jail for a while. I don’t think DC is a jurisdiction that would be particularly sympathetic to some white metro riders claim of self defense using a knife.


Yeah, I'd like to see the jury that would convict someone of that. A large group of teens swarming someone = reasonable fear of one's life. I'll defend my life first and ask questions later.


It’s over with DC juries. You will be under the jail.

I ride the metro daily. Have had teens try to start something twice in the last year and both times just take the L and leave for another car while the pick on some other sap.

And please tell me why you should have to do this?


A person shouldn’t. But self defense can be complex both legally and tactically, making it prudent to avoid the situation when it is possible to do do.

I wouldn’t get on Metro if they paid me.

Well I agree with your 2nd statement at least inside DC or at night.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 12:39     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
It’s interesting to me that people who look like they can afford to pay have no shame in stealing. I would be so ashamed with myself to not pay.

I wish there was a way to publicly post pictures of fare dodgers to shame them, but l suspect it would be call racist.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 12:35     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:

A person shouldn’t. But self defense can be complex both legally and tactically, making it prudent to avoid the situation when it is possible to do do.

I wouldn’t get on Metro if they paid me.


So, don't. Nobody is forcing you to get on Metro.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 12:32     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've started carrying a knife with me the 2x a week I have to go down to Metro Center for work. First time I've felt the need to do that in the 20 years I've lived in DC and used Metro.


Someone starts a fist fight with you or gets in your face screaming and you stab them you’re likely going to jail for a while. I don’t think DC is a jurisdiction that would be particularly sympathetic to some white metro riders claim of self defense using a knife.


Yeah, I'd like to see the jury that would convict someone of that. A large group of teens swarming someone = reasonable fear of one's life. I'll defend my life first and ask questions later.


It’s over with DC juries. You will be under the jail.

I ride the metro daily. Have had teens try to start something twice in the last year and both times just take the L and leave for another car while the pick on some other sap.

And please tell me why you should have to do this?


A person shouldn’t. But self defense can be complex both legally and tactically, making it prudent to avoid the situation when it is possible to do do.

I wouldn’t get on Metro if they paid me.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 11:46     Subject: metro fare evasion is absolutely ridiculous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've started carrying a knife with me the 2x a week I have to go down to Metro Center for work. First time I've felt the need to do that in the 20 years I've lived in DC and used Metro.


Someone starts a fist fight with you or gets in your face screaming and you stab them you’re likely going to jail for a while. I don’t think DC is a jurisdiction that would be particularly sympathetic to some white metro riders claim of self defense using a knife.


Yeah, I'd like to see the jury that would convict someone of that. A large group of teens swarming someone = reasonable fear of one's life. I'll defend my life first and ask questions later.


It’s over with DC juries. You will be under the jail.

I ride the metro daily. Have had teens try to start something twice in the last year and both times just take the L and leave for another car while the pick on some other sap.


Oh, I agree with that. Always retreat if that's a viable option and live to fight another day. But if a group of teens decides to swarm you, you either put up a fight or possibly die from the kicking/punching.