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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

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It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Not really my biggest concern. I'd rather they find a better reading curriculum or hire more teachers.

Maybe stick to the elementary school forum.

Or maybe you belong in the poo monitor forum.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

Not true. They’re using the stalls in the girls bathrooms. With some bathrooms now closed, the waits are even longer. We’re going to have health ramifications. My girls already try not to drink anything all day at school. It’s completely unacceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Not really my biggest concern. I'd rather they find a better reading curriculum or hire more teachers.

Maybe stick to the elementary school forum.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Not really my biggest concern. I'd rather they find a better reading curriculum or hire more teachers.

Maybe stick to the elementary school forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

MCPS is the 4th largest school district in the US. There are bound to be a few bad apples. They're also trying to make this into a bigger issue than it really is.

Nope. It's the 15th largest.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Yes, the students are breaking school rules, but more importantly, they are breaking the law. So, why AREN’T the cops involved? School administrators aren’t responsible for enforcing the law.

Montgomery County voters do not want police in our schools. The kids know this and know that schools are a good place to get away with breaking the law.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Not really my biggest concern. I'd rather they find a better reading curriculum or hire more teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

MCPS is the 4th largest school district in the US. There are bound to be a few bad apples. They're also trying to make this into a bigger issue than it really is.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody here cares about education and is just concerned with making school as miserable as is humanely possible.

those would be the social justice warriors who care more about certain group's feelings than actually closing the achievement gap and ensuring that kids are safe and learning in school.

or who would rather focus on poop monitors than actual education

Some kids are holding their poop because they don't feel comfortable using the bathrooms due to kids doing drugs in them.

Why do you think it's acceptable to expose minors to drug use? If you exposed your kids to drug use they'd hall your a$$ to jail.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Not really my biggest concern. I'd rather they find a better reading curriculum or hire more teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Yes, the students are breaking school rules, but more importantly, they are breaking the law. So, why AREN’T the cops involved? School administrators aren’t responsible for enforcing the law.

Montgomery County voters do not want police in our schools. The kids know this and know that schools are a good place to get away with breaking the law.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody here cares about education and is just concerned with making school as miserable as is humanely possible.

those would be the social justice warriors who care more about certain group's feelings than actually closing the achievement gap and ensuring that kids are safe and learning in school.

or who would rather focus on poop monitors than actual education