Anonymous
02/13/2023 09:31
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are in New England and our school does a straight 0-100 percentage. A 91 is a 91 and a 73 is a 73. Honors classes get a bump of some sort but it’s still a percentage and, really, most colleges just want unweighted. I can’t believe our kids have to compete for the same college spots as these kids who just get As, no matter the percentage.
It's insane. My district is like yours. My kid's GPA will be 89-90. Which I guess in the DC suburbs would be a 4.0+? The whole process is so corrupt and weird.
It doesn’t matter. Your kids are compared to their peers at their school with only that school’s grading scale.
It doesn’t matter to me. If my kid was being hurt by colleges devaluing 4.0s from MCPS schools because of perceived grade inflation, I’d care.
Yes this is a definite issue and what is going to make standardized testing even more crucial.
Well, this is another thing that I completely don't understand. GPAs are inflated and inconsistent. But standardized tests are optional/taboo/racist. Essays are bullshit. Extracurriculars can be faked/inflated. We've made such a mess of everything ... including our kids.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 07:56
Subject: Re:So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Tons of kids do the work and don't get A's especially in AP's, but yes, many more kids are getting A's than they used to. But this trend has been going on for a couple of decades now.
It has massively accelerated over the past 2 years.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 07:52
Subject: Re:So many unweighted 4.0s.
Tons of kids do the work and don't get A's especially in AP's, but yes, many more kids are getting A's than they used to. But this trend has been going on for a couple of decades now.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 07:10
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree MCPS is a whacko but it’s not quite as bad as you are saying. You get an official grade per semester not year, so the lowest you could get for an A is 79.5 one quarter then 89.5 the second quarter - a B and an A averaging to an A.
How does that average to an A? At the very least an A should be 90%. Those two numbers do not average 90%. It’s mid-B (84.5%) Only in crazy DMV land is 84.5% an A!
this is wack. how do a 79.5 and and 89.5 average to a 89.5? it averages to an 84.5 which is a mid B. how does that turn into an A?
Because they are a B and an A for their respective quarters. In MCPS, a B in one quarter and an A in the other quarter results in an A for the semester. Yes, it would average to 84.5, but that is not how the grading rubric is done (i.e., irrelevant).
With no + or - grades it makes sense to reward students who raise their grade from a B to an A and also to reward students who got an A and then a B.
Why should students be “rewarded” for inconsistent performance?
What incentive is there to get a better grade second quarter if they still have a B for the semester grade?
Anonymous
02/13/2023 07:07
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are in New England and our school does a straight 0-100 percentage. A 91 is a 91 and a 73 is a 73. Honors classes get a bump of some sort but it’s still a percentage and, really, most colleges just want unweighted. I can’t believe our kids have to compete for the same college spots as these kids who just get As, no matter the percentage.
It's insane. My district is like yours. My kid's GPA will be 89-90. Which I guess in the DC suburbs would be a 4.0+? The whole process is so corrupt and weird.
It doesn’t matter. Your kids are compared to their peers at their school with only that school’s grading scale.
It doesn’t matter to me. If my kid was being hurt by colleges devaluing 4.0s from MCPS schools because of perceived grade inflation, I’d care.
Yes this is a definite issue and what is going to make standardized testing even more crucial.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 00:21
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:This does explain the kids from the other thread with 4.0 UW gpas who didn’t get into UVA.
Yep, because there are hundreds of them. Many indistinguishable from each other. 4.0 UW is the new 3.5.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 00:17
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
This does explain the kids from the other thread with 4.0 UW gpas who didn’t get into UVA.
Anonymous
02/13/2023 00:15
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree MCPS is a whacko but it’s not quite as bad as you are saying. You get an official grade per semester not year, so the lowest you could get for an A is 79.5 one quarter then 89.5 the second quarter - a B and an A averaging to an A.
How does that average to an A? At the very least an A should be 90%. Those two numbers do not average 90%. It’s mid-B (84.5%) Only in crazy DMV land is 84.5% an A!
this is wack. how do a 79.5 and and 89.5 average to a 89.5? it averages to an 84.5 which is a mid B. how does that turn into an A?
Because they are a B and an A for their respective quarters. In MCPS, a B in one quarter and an A in the other quarter results in an A for the semester. Yes, it would average to 84.5, but that is not how the grading rubric is done (i.e., irrelevant).
With no + or - grades it makes sense to reward students who raise their grade from a B to an A and also to reward students who got an A and then a B.
Why should students be “rewarded” for inconsistent performance?
Anonymous
02/12/2023 23:45
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my kid graduated from RM there were 17 unweighted 4.0s. Probably too high but this thread makes it seem like half the class has straight As.
At Blair SMAC a few years ago there were only around 15 students with a 4.0 and a SAT above 1550 (average SAT for 100 magnet students was 1530). Not that easy to get straight As every single semester.
Doesn’t matter, DC with 4.0 from magnet and 1550+ still got deferred everywhere.
Kind of depressing. Did they ED anywhere?
No ED due to financial considerations, accepted by safeties only (UMD and Pitt)
What deferrals do they have? And did they apply RD anywhere?
Deferred- UMichigan, Case western, UNC, Northeastern, UIUC
Yes RD to a few high reaches
Anonymous
02/12/2023 22:06
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my kid graduated from RM there were 17 unweighted 4.0s. Probably too high but this thread makes it seem like half the class has straight As.
At Blair SMAC a few years ago there were only around 15 students with a 4.0 and a SAT above 1550 (average SAT for 100 magnet students was 1530). Not that easy to get straight As every single semester.
Doesn’t matter, DC with 4.0 from magnet and 1550+ still got deferred everywhere.
Kind of depressing. Did they ED anywhere?
No ED due to financial considerations, accepted by safeties only (UMD and Pitt)
What deferrals do they have? And did they apply RD anywhere?
Anonymous
02/12/2023 21:39
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my kid graduated from RM there were 17 unweighted 4.0s. Probably too high but this thread makes it seem like half the class has straight As.
At Blair SMAC a few years ago there were only around 15 students with a 4.0 and a SAT above 1550 (average SAT for 100 magnet students was 1530). Not that easy to get straight As every single semester.
Doesn’t matter, DC with 4.0 from magnet and 1550+ still got deferred everywhere.
Kind of depressing. Did they ED anywhere?
No ED due to financial considerations, accepted by safeties only (UMD and Pitt)
Anonymous
02/12/2023 21:37
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are in New England and our school does a straight 0-100 percentage. A 91 is a 91 and a 73 is a 73. Honors classes get a bump of some sort but it’s still a percentage and, really, most colleges just want unweighted. I can’t believe our kids have to compete for the same college spots as these kids who just get As, no matter the percentage.
It's insane. My district is like yours. My kid's GPA will be 89-90. Which I guess in the DC suburbs would be a 4.0+? The whole process is so corrupt and weird.
It doesn’t matter. Your kids are compared to their peers at their school with only that school’s grading scale.
It doesn’t matter to me. If my kid was being hurt by colleges devaluing 4.0s from MCPS schools because of perceived grade inflation, I’d care.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 21:25
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are in New England and our school does a straight 0-100 percentage. A 91 is a 91 and a 73 is a 73. Honors classes get a bump of some sort but it’s still a percentage and, really, most colleges just want unweighted. I can’t believe our kids have to compete for the same college spots as these kids who just get As, no matter the percentage.
It's insane. My district is like yours. My kid's GPA will be 89-90. Which I guess in the DC suburbs would be a 4.0+? The whole process is so corrupt and weird.
It doesn’t matter. Your kids are compared to their peers at their school with only that school’s grading scale.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 21:17
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my kid graduated from RM there were 17 unweighted 4.0s. Probably too high but this thread makes it seem like half the class has straight As.
At Blair SMAC a few years ago there were only around 15 students with a 4.0 and a SAT above 1550 (average SAT for 100 magnet students was 1530). Not that easy to get straight As every single semester.
Doesn’t matter, DC with 4.0 from magnet and 1550+ still got deferred everywhere.
Please tell me they got into UMD.
Anonymous
02/12/2023 21:08
Subject: So many unweighted 4.0s.
Anonymous wrote:We are in New England and our school does a straight 0-100 percentage. A 91 is a 91 and a 73 is a 73. Honors classes get a bump of some sort but it’s still a percentage and, really, most colleges just want unweighted. I can’t believe our kids have to compete for the same college spots as these kids who just get As, no matter the percentage.
It's insane. My district is like yours. My kid's GPA will be 89-90. Which I guess in the DC suburbs would be a 4.0+? The whole process is so corrupt and weird.