Anonymous wrote:My mother (a teacher) said I couldn't be a teacher if she paid for an elite school. She didn't want me to be a teacher at all, having been one herself.

My son has never wanted to be a teacher after listening to me talk about the profession.

Anonymous wrote:I would not be happy. We are full pay at an Ivy and my daughter knows she can’t do something like music — which May it may not pay well. She told her friend one time that she needed to do something because of the sacrifices we have made for her education. We are not rich. One income for the most part but saved like crazy!

If you are full pay at an Ivy on one income, you're doing just fine (especially if you have been able to save over the years). Two incomes help to decrease the financial burden of affording college if you are already passed the full pay threshold. I would've rather let my kid go in-state to major in whatever she wanted (or pursue a double major) than make "sacrifices" and stress my kid out by dictating her academic choices.

Anonymous wrote:You realize some people get scholarships to study nursing, education, etc at elite schools.

Need-based, yes, merit aid less likely.

Anonymous wrote:Elementary School Teacher?

I currently live in another city, and there is a public elementary school here that is run in conjunction with a local elite university. From perusing LinkedIn and the school’s directory, most of the school’s faculty & staff have BAs and/or MAs from that elite school or a different one. This is a city public school, not a suburban one, so teachers are not well-paid.

Would you be bothered if your child ended up doing that?

Sure -- this would be a solid result. You are not sending a kid to private for a certain result.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents sent me to a big 3 and then I went to a highly regarded college. My mom was a school teacher and I think my parents were very proud that I chose to be a teacher. My hours and days off schedule aligned with my kids who are in the same school system which allowed me to spend a lot of time with them after school and on breaks which they know is good for their grandchildren.

Also, I bet my students and their parents appreciate that elite education.

This is PEAK flex and, also nauseatingly self-satisfied. I'm not sure why PP has such an overinflated ego, but it's unwarrented. I certainly wouldn't care if my kids became teachers, it's a pretty sweet life if you can afford it. But I would hope they aren't entitled suprior pricks like PP. Posters like this one is why DCUM hates teachers.

Lmao

This is the same reaction I had. I don’t think my hours or working conditions are part of a “sweet life.” If it were so sweet, there wouldn’t be such a mass exodus out of the profession right now. Heck, I have crying coworkers because of the job’s stress.

I posted above. No, I don’t support my kids going into teaching. It’s not because I find the job unimportant or lacking respect. (On the contrary, it’s one of the most important jobs one can have.) It’s because the conditions are dreadful right now.

Compared to most other professions - teachers work fewer hours a year. And all the stress I hear about from teachers - you have things that have to get done in a timely way, your clients are demanding (parents and teachers), and the expectations can sometimes seem overwhelming - is just normal work stuff. "Stress" is performing surgery, speaking in front of boards of corporations, flying a plane, negotiating national treaties, leading staffs in the hundreds through a recession.
Could it possibly be that the mass exodus is occurring for reasons other than "stress?" Because most of the complaints seem like normal expectations of those with jobs.

I’m the PP. You’re welcome to join me at work for a week. I think you’ll have more respect for what teachers do when you actually see it. It’s high stress with no breaks. It’s 60+ hour weeks (every week). It’s impossible demands. It’s the reason why 2/3rds of my department has quit in recent years and why we have lost 4 teachers during the year this year.

I came from a corporate setting. My teaching job is (easily) 3X harder than my old job.

OP, here’s another reason to discourage a child from going into teaching. They’ll work their tails off only to be told they have it easy.

At least they'd be adding value.

Paying full price for an elite school only for the child to become an elementary school teacher is something for only the wealthy. Period. To those people who said they are doing it or would do it because “the college experience, education, life is not about money, etc”, at least acknowledge your privilege. At least acknowledge that there was someone in your family tree (a spouse, a great-whatever, yourself even) who made a shit-load of money. Enough that descendants didn’t have to worry about money.

Do not criticize a hard working couple who scrimp and save for their child to also attend an elite university and then become an elementary school teacher. For people in those positions, ROI is important because they don’t have family money to fall back on. They are making their way themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents sent me to a big 3 and then I went to a highly regarded college. My mom was a school teacher and I think my parents were very proud that I chose to be a teacher. My hours and days off schedule aligned with my kids who are in the same school system which allowed me to spend a lot of time with them after school and on breaks which they know is good for their grandchildren.

Also, I bet my students and their parents appreciate that elite education.

This is PEAK flex and, also nauseatingly self-satisfied. I'm not sure why PP has such an overinflated ego, but it's unwarrented. I certainly wouldn't care if my kids became teachers, it's a pretty sweet life if you can afford it. But I would hope they aren't entitled suprior pricks like PP. Posters like this one is why DCUM hates teachers.

Lmao

This is the same reaction I had. I don’t think my hours or working conditions are part of a “sweet life.” If it were so sweet, there wouldn’t be such a mass exodus out of the profession right now. Heck, I have crying coworkers because of the job’s stress.

I posted above. No, I don’t support my kids going into teaching. It’s not because I find the job unimportant or lacking respect. (On the contrary, it’s one of the most important jobs one can have.) It’s because the conditions are dreadful right now.

Compared to most other professions - teachers work fewer hours a year. And all the stress I hear about from teachers - you have things that have to get done in a timely way, your clients are demanding (parents and teachers), and the expectations can sometimes seem overwhelming - is just normal work stuff. "Stress" is performing surgery, speaking in front of boards of corporations, flying a plane, negotiating national treaties, leading staffs in the hundreds through a recession.
Could it possibly be that the mass exodus is occurring for reasons other than "stress?" Because most of the complaints seem like normal expectations of those with jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Elementary School Teacher?

I currently live in another city, and there is a public elementary school here that is run in conjunction with a local elite university. From perusing LinkedIn and the school’s directory, most of the school’s faculty & staff have BAs and/or MAs from that elite school or a different one. This is a city public school, not a suburban one, so teachers are not well-paid.

Would you be bothered if your child ended up doing that?

What “elite schools” offer degrees in elementary education?
What

Stanford, for one.

Incorrect. They offer a minor in education.

https://majors.stanford.edu/education

And a Master’s.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’ve told my own children to pick any field other than education. I work way, way too hard for very little money and respect. I want better for them.

It’s a shame because I think teaching is among the most honorable of professions.

Respect is earned. If you’re not getting respect, do better.

This is why our teachers need to be paid better and respected. The stories my DD tells me about how rude and disrespectful the kids are to her hard working teachers are pathetic. I hear about the junk everyday.

The stories my kids tell me indicate that many teachers are profoundly stupid and lazy, hence unworthy of respect. These teachers need to be fired not paid more.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Life isn’t about money.

Good luck without money

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Anonymous wrote:Op were you under the impression that college = trade school? The fact that so many people don’t appreciate or understand the personal and community value of being properly educated is one of the most disheartening and concerning things about our country.

+1

So sick of the college student as consumer, ROI obsession. Education is inherently valuable.

They charge shit ton of money like the amount of money you can buy a two bed condo you can live in for the rest of your life in DMV area
Get real

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Anonymous wrote:Elementary School Teacher?

I currently live in another city, and there is a public elementary school here that is run in conjunction with a local elite university. From perusing LinkedIn and the school’s directory, most of the school’s faculty & staff have BAs and/or MAs from that elite school or a different one. This is a city public school, not a suburban one, so teachers are not well-paid.

Would you be bothered if your child ended up doing that?

What “elite schools” offer degrees in elementary education?
What

Stanford, for one.

Incorrect. They offer a minor in education.

https://majors.stanford.edu/education

Anonymous wrote:Op were you under the impression that college = trade school? The fact that so many people don’t appreciate or understand the personal and community value of being properly educated is one of the most disheartening and concerning things about our country.

The fact that so many people don’t appreciate or understand that you don’t need to go to an “elite school” in order to be properly educated is one of the most disheartening and concerning things about DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’ve told my own children to pick any field other than education. I work way, way too hard for very little money and respect. I want better for them.

It’s a shame because I think teaching is among the most honorable of professions.

Respect is earned. If you’re not getting respect, do better.

This is why our teachers need to be paid better and respected. The stories my DD tells me about how rude and disrespectful the kids are to her hard working teachers are pathetic. I hear about the junk everyday.