It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing about these fights, and then, seeing sequence after sequence after sequence of them at various schools is shocking. Yes, you know these happen, they are unfortunately common. But exposing them like this is controversial, but also important to see.

Agree. Glad to see these videos so that parents can understand how stressful the school environment might be.

But there was 4 girls who jumped another girl in a school in NJ early this week and the video was sent everywhere and the 14yr old girl who was jumped was made fun of and bullied. She committed suicide 2 days later. So honestly, I am not a fan of the people who keep sending pictures of girls passed out in BCC bathrooms or anyone of these fights at these schools. Not to mention the 18yr old having sex with the 14yr old on Facebook Live at RM a few years ago.

I am 100% against phones being allowed in school for these reasons and the terrible nature of social media and not keeping kids focused on school. It has gotten out of hand.

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Anonymous wrote:Involving parents---- this is no surprise to me. Leaving a basketball game against paint branch manybyears ago the paint branch parents were lined up on the way to the parking lot heckling our students.

You can't be surprised that kids are doing in the school what parents are doing at home.

So when the parents verbally abuse their kids then those kids verbally abuse their classmates. And when the parents are violent with their kids then those kids are violent with their their classmates. So let's just put all of them into a special place where they won't trouble kids from happier homes

We did. It's called paint branch high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is a world of difference between a "bad kid" and a "mentally ill" kid. One can mature and grow out of bad behaviors. The other needs a lifetime of support.

I am thinking of some bad kids from my high school and where they are now. Some went to jail as expected. Others got themselves killed. But the majority of them have gone on to completely normal lives

Why should minor kids have to deal with violence in schools? Why do we accept such a horrible work environment for our kids? Would you like to be in a workplace that expects you to be around violence all day? You, an adult, don't think it's right, but you think it's fine for kids to be around that all day?

WTF.

Let's speak plainly then. I want the actually, truly, deeply mentally ill kids to get the treatment they need. And I want the bad kids to mature and grow up to be normal adults.

And I don't want my kid to enter adulthood having never learned how to deal with mean and/or volatile people. Because in the workplace, or just walking down the street, when they come across someone in a pique of rage they won't be able to go tell the hall monitor.

Sure, who doesn't want the mentally ill to get the treatment they need. Doesn't mean I want a mentally ill person in the same classroom as my minor child.

You can expose your kids to violence on your own time. Classrooms and schools aren't the place for it.

And I say this as someone who went to a rough HS with fights every single day, often times multiple. It's a horrible learning environment.

WTF kind of parent doesn't mind if their kid is exposed to violence everyday. Are you violent at home everyday so that your kids will be used to it? Do you have hunger game styles for your kids so they know how to fend for themselves. Your post is one of the dumbest I've read.

Anonymous wrote:I'm just going to point out that Elrich taught 4th and 5th grade for 17 years at Rolling Terrace E.S., which is probably far more experience with teaching in MCPS than most of the randoms posting anonymously here on DCUM.

ES is very different from HS. He probably didn't have to deal with large teens fighting, trying to break them up, or weapons in school, or drugs and alcohol in the bathrooms, or kids od'ing.

I think this is the problem.. he thinks 16,17, 18 yr olds are like 6,7,8 yr olds and want them treated the same way and have the same expectations.

Do you have the same expectations of a 6yr old and a 16 yr old? Have you tried to calm a 6 yr old down vs a 16 yr old when they are raging?

Anonymous wrote:Hearing about these fights, and then, seeing sequence after sequence after sequence of them at various schools is shocking. Yes, you know these happen, they are unfortunately common. But exposing them like this is controversial, but also important to see.

Agree. Glad to see these videos so that parents can understand how stressful the school environment might be.

Anonymous wrote:Involving parents---- this is no surprise to me. Leaving a basketball game against paint branch manybyears ago the paint branch parents were lined up on the way to the parking lot heckling our students.

You can't be surprised that kids are doing in the school what parents are doing at home.

Which does raise the question of what Sherwood parents are doing at home.
https://moco360.media/2022/01/10/mcps-investigating-racist-remarks-made-during-sherwood-einstein-basketball-game/

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is a world of difference between a "bad kid" and a "mentally ill" kid. One can mature and grow out of bad behaviors. The other needs a lifetime of support.

I am thinking of some bad kids from my high school and where they are now. Some went to jail as expected. Others got themselves killed. But the majority of them have gone on to completely normal lives

Why should minor kids have to deal with violence in schools? Why do we accept such a horrible work environment for our kids? Would you like to be in a workplace that expects you to be around violence all day? You, an adult, don't think it's right, but you think it's fine for kids to be around that all day?

WTF.

Let's speak plainly then. I want the actually, truly, deeply mentally ill kids to get the treatment they need. And I want the bad kids to mature and grow up to be normal adults.

And I don't want my kid to enter adulthood having never learned how to deal with mean and/or volatile people. Because in the workplace, or just walking down the street, when they come across someone in a pique of rage they won't be able to go tell the hall monitor.

Yes, they will call the cops to deal with the person who has "a pique of rage". Time to stop accepting this behavior or treating them with restorative justice.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is a world of difference between a "bad kid" and a "mentally ill" kid. One can mature and grow out of bad behaviors. The other needs a lifetime of support.

I am thinking of some bad kids from my high school and where they are now. Some went to jail as expected. Others got themselves killed. But the majority of them have gone on to completely normal lives

Why should minor kids have to deal with violence in schools? Why do we accept such a horrible work environment for our kids? Would you like to be in a workplace that expects you to be around violence all day? You, an adult, don't think it's right, but you think it's fine for kids to be around that all day?

WTF.

Let's speak plainly then. I want the actually, truly, deeply mentally ill kids to get the treatment they need. And I want the bad kids to mature and grow up to be normal adults.

And I don't want my kid to enter adulthood having never learned how to deal with mean and/or volatile people. Because in the workplace, or just walking down the street, when they come across someone in a pique of rage they won't be able to go tell the hall monitor.

So you think that unless your kid attends a school where there are distracting, full-on fights everyday, then they won't know how to deal with mean or volatile people? And what kind of lesson are you actually teaching your kids by allowing them to be in this environment every day? Are you suggesting that when they walk down the street and encounter someone in a "pique of rage" that they hug them? ignore them? Not call the cops? And finally, are you working in an office where people are regularly beating each other up? Is this what you are prepping your kid for?

Anonymous wrote:Involving parents---- this is no surprise to me. Leaving a basketball game against paint branch manybyears ago the paint branch parents were lined up on the way to the parking lot heckling our students.

You can't be surprised that kids are doing in the school what parents are doing at home.

So when the parents verbally abuse their kids then those kids verbally abuse their classmates. And when the parents are violent with their kids then those kids are violent with their their classmates. So let's just put all of them into a special place where they won't trouble kids from happier homes

Involving parents---- this is no surprise to me. Leaving a basketball game against paint branch manybyears ago the paint branch parents were lined up on the way to the parking lot heckling our students.

You can't be surprised that kids are doing in the school what parents are doing at home.

The country needs to replace teachers with SROs and install TSA scanners at entrances. Maybe put in barbed wire fences and have guard dogs. That will show these kids!

Anonymous wrote:Hearing about these fights, and then, seeing sequence after sequence after sequence of them at various schools is shocking. Yes, you know these happen, they are unfortunately common. But exposing them like this is controversial, but also important to see.

If it's just a minor scuffle then I don't see this is anything to get worked up over, but if there's actual violence then it's a criminal matter for the police. Charges should be filed and involved parties should be prosecuted.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there is a world of difference between a "bad kid" and a "mentally ill" kid. One can mature and grow out of bad behaviors. The other needs a lifetime of support.

I am thinking of some bad kids from my high school and where they are now. Some went to jail as expected. Others got themselves killed. But the majority of them have gone on to completely normal lives

Why should minor kids have to deal with violence in schools? Why do we accept such a horrible work environment for our kids? Would you like to be in a workplace that expects you to be around violence all day? You, an adult, don't think it's right, but you think it's fine for kids to be around that all day?

WTF.

Let's speak plainly then. I want the actually, truly, deeply mentally ill kids to get the treatment they need. And I want the bad kids to mature and grow up to be normal adults.

And I don't want my kid to enter adulthood having never learned how to deal with mean and/or volatile people. Because in the workplace, or just walking down the street, when they come across someone in a pique of rage they won't be able to go tell the hall monitor.

Hearing about these fights, and then, seeing sequence after sequence after sequence of them at various schools is shocking. Yes, you know these happen, they are unfortunately common. But exposing them like this is controversial, but also important to see.