Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with Michigan but it is just a big state school. A far cry from an elite Big 3.

A high flyer from a DC private with other options likely won't chose a public uni filled lots of Michiganders.

Says you. My DC, a high flyer from a DC private with other options, can't wait.

Many kids who go to "big 3" schools have no interest in continuing their higher education in a "big 3" environment, which is what the Ivys and many SLACs are akin to. Michigan, along with a few other state flagships, offer the very best of both an academic environment as well as a "big school" environment both in terms of clubs and activities as well as big time sports. Very few schools can match the combination.

Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Jackson-Reed's graduating class is more than twice the size of Sidwell and GDS combined, so it would stand to reason.

Nothing wrong with Michigan but it is just a big state school. A far cry from an elite Big 3.

A high flyer from a DC private with other options likely won't chose a public uni filled lots of Michiganders.

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Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Writes someone who does not understand statistics.

Writes someone who doesn’t understand college admissions. Yes, Jackson-Reed has a larger graduating class and it also has a much higher acceptance rate for its graduates going to Michigan in particular. Smart kids from diverse, urban public school districts have a major advantage over private school students when it comes to college admissions in 2023. And first-gen. students have an even bigger advantage. Go look at Michigan’s freshmen class profile. A lot of folks on this board are stuck in the past. Things have changed for the better.

Then the more pertinent statement would be that J-R has a higher admit rate than private schools--and even Thomas Jefferson. Which is true. However, it's unknown which schools at UM J-R students are applying to, but it is known that the YEILD rates from J-R are higher than the yield rates from Sidwell and Thomas Jefferson. Sidwell and TJ (and even schools like Phillips Exeter and Stuyvesant) students who are overall stronger than J-R students by any objective measure (e.g., SAT and AP average scores), seem to still be using Michigan as a back-up. And it's known that Michigan yield protects, so that could explain the differences that we see. High schools that produce a yield of 40% or more definitely appear to have higher acceptance rates than high schools that send only a few of their accepted students onto Michigan.
https://www.michigandaily.com/news/academics/we-looked-301-high-schools-most-applicants-u-m-heres-what-we-found/

Anonymous wrote:Some Michigan booster here is always trying to pretend Michigan is tougher to get into than it is. Are you related to the UVA booster. They both are state schools- nothing more nor less.

DP and first time on thread.

UMich actually does have some programs that are harder to get into than Ivy programs for post grad in certain fields. The one our DD was accepted into only accepted 4% of applicants. Admissions seemed more predictable according to GPA and numbers of publications rather than random holistic criteria which no one can predict.

However, selectivity is not what makes it a great school. It is a very well run public research university with wonderful career expanding opportunities located in a charming small city with strong health services, competitive college sports, boutique restaurants, book stores and local pride. People in Ann Arbor act friendly and pleasant to each other.

I can see why it is popular with many ambitious young people.

Anonymous wrote:Are any high stats legacy students having better luck with an OOS admit? DC applying in fall, perfect 36 ACT and advanced math. Hoping will have a shot at UMD and UVA too but would prefer MI STEM programs. I do think that MI does at least consider legacy unlike many other places are dropping-they at least appreciate their alumni network! My kid is way more qualified than I was to attend, LOL!

DC is at Mich from a Big 3/5 and had great grades in highest level math classes. I think the school you apply to impacts the rate of admission. LSA maybe easier than applying directly to school of engineering. I am not sure. All schools with under 15-20 percent admit rates are really tough. BTDT with two kids. The huge upside has been once they are at college they are very well prepared academically. Enrolling in private for college admissions is a huge mistake. Enrolling for college preparation worked well for us.

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Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Writes someone who does not understand statistics.

Writes someone who doesn’t understand college admissions. Yes, Jackson-Reed has a larger graduating class and it also has a much higher acceptance rate for its graduates going to Michigan in particular. Smart kids from diverse, urban public school districts have a major advantage over private school students when it comes to college admissions in 2023. And first-gen. students have an even bigger advantage. Go look at Michigan’s freshmen class profile. A lot of folks on this board are stuck in the past. Things have changed for the better.

Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Writes someone who does not understand statistics.

Anonymous wrote:GDS had at least one unhooked grad to an Ivy last year (in ED..not an athlete, URM or legacy)...semi-famous parent though (in a weird, DC kind of way).

I know of more than one unhooked from last year (class of 22) at 3 ivies. Plus several unhooked at SLACs. I think this is similar to Sidwell and STA/NCS from 2022.

Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Umm Jackson Reed has almost 600 kids in its classes! Jackson Reed has more kids in its graduating class than GDS, Maret, Sidwell, NCS, and STA combined!

Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Is this true? Show me, please? Very curious about the top 20 ranked and JR vs Sidwell GDS.

Jackson-Reed sends more kids to Michigan + Ivies than Sidwell and GDS combined.

Can think of another gds kid last year admitted to an ivy w no hook and not even a semi-famous parent in a dc kinda way. Does happen. Not enough

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Anonymous wrote:GDS had at least one unhooked grad to an Ivy last year (in ED..not an athlete, URM or legacy)...semi-famous parent though (in a weird, DC kind of way).

Does enrolled older sibling count as a hook?

no