Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:55
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All of you that think this is awesome and NBD, please now stop attacking/questioning the parents that say their children will not go to college in states that have politics they strongly disagree with. Asserting they are overreacting and that would not impact the student experience and then applauding this.
I think the sad part is that the school will likely fail. The goal is to turn it into something the current students would hate and thus drive them out and I don’t see a huge demand for the kind of school it is with a reactionary conservative bent.
You don't need a huge demand, just enough to fill the classes.
Who is going to teach these classes? The current faculty aren't sticking around.
Is there any indication that the school wants current faculty members to remain ?
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:46
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
In Florida his goal for colleges will also be no female teachers.
Females in Florida get ready he has a ton of crap coming and it will not be good.
Females in Florida get ready he has a ton of crap coming and it will not be good.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:44
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Bottom line you have a college student in Florida from OOS get them out.
This is only getting worse.
He and his cronies are going to change the Florida constitution.
Right now he can not run for President while being gov so....
He's everyday signing excutive orders to make florida be 1939 Germany and he's winning.
Florida is hosed.
This is only getting worse.
He and his cronies are going to change the Florida constitution.
Right now he can not run for President while being gov so....
He's everyday signing excutive orders to make florida be 1939 Germany and he's winning.
Florida is hosed.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:43
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Public Colleges should be about teaching math and engineering etc employable skills. The liberal arts and other recursive teach to be a teacher at a college can do that at a private liberal arts school
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:41
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s a tiny struggling public liberal arts college with an almost non-existent endowment. The governor has every right to step in
How is it struggling?
NP
For one, it is supposedly an "honors college", yet it has an acceptance rate of 70% pre-Covid.
Two, the college was attempting to double its enrollment in recognition that it was under-enrolled at a time when other Florida state schools are setting application records with declining admit rates.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:18
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Proud liberal with even more liberal and proud adult children, one of whom seriously considered NCF as a high school senior nearly two decades ago before going to a top private liberal arts college. Here’s my question:
Isn’t it fair to say, putting politics and ideology aside, that it really IS true that the school has struggled in recent years? While most good schools - and nearly all Florida state schools - have seen applications and admissions standard skyrocket, things have been stagnant / declining at NCF for years. Few students who are qualified for admission to top schools now are seriously considering NCF. UF’s standards are much higher now than NCF’s and historically it was the opposite.
I’m not saying that admissions standards are the be all and end all, but they do serve as a proxy for how a school is progressing. And with NCF being a state school and with a state’s budget being limited, why isn’t it fair for the state to take a look at what it might do to make NCF more competitive in the educational marketplace?
That's a a good point, BUT is it really what he is doing here? Looking at academic standards? This does not seem to be the case at all; he doesn't give a crap about Florida academics. He is pandering to his base with things like the Stop Woke Act.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:12
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:If more than 90% of the colleges are controlled by liberals (many of them are very liberal), almost no conservatives are allowed or can take right wing positions in these colleges, what's wrong with a tiny number of colleges to turn conservative? If you do not admit that liberals have taken over colleges across US, you are delusional and do not live in reality. Same thing for news media. Everything needs something to balance in search for truth.
It’s called free markets.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:09
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All of you that think this is awesome and NBD, please now stop attacking/questioning the parents that say their children will not go to college in states that have politics they strongly disagree with. Asserting they are overreacting and that would not impact the student experience and then applauding this.
I think the sad part is that the school will likely fail. The goal is to turn it into something the current students would hate and thus drive them out and I don’t see a huge demand for the kind of school it is with a reactionary conservative bent.
You don't need a huge demand, just enough to fill the classes.
Who is going to teach these classes? The current faculty aren't sticking around.
lol this is the last thing to worry about
Anonymous
02/01/2023 09:07
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:NP here. Proud liberal with even more liberal and proud adult children, one of whom seriously considered NCF as a high school senior nearly two decades ago before going to a top private liberal arts college. Here’s my question:
Isn’t it fair to say, putting politics and ideology aside, that it really IS true that the school has struggled in recent years? While most good schools - and nearly all Florida state schools - have seen applications and admissions standard skyrocket, things have been stagnant / declining at NCF for years. Few students who are qualified for admission to top schools now are seriously considering NCF. UF’s standards are much higher now than NCF’s and historically it was the opposite.
I’m not saying that admissions standards are the be all and end all, but they do serve as a proxy for how a school is progressing. And with NCF being a state school and with a state’s budget being limited, why isn’t it fair for the state to take a look at what it might do to make NCF more competitive in the educational marketplace?
If that's really your concern "proud liberal," then you might be interested to know that enrollment increased 30% last year, the first full year the now-fired President was in office.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 08:05
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.
Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.
Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.
It may be political theater, but he's not elitist and does know what "common folk" experience. He grew up in a family of very modest means in a small town in Florida. His smarts got him to Yale and then Harvard Law School.
He rips these types of places apart. What a hypocrite.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 07:31
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
NP here. Proud liberal with even more liberal and proud adult children, one of whom seriously considered NCF as a high school senior nearly two decades ago before going to a top private liberal arts college. Here’s my question:
Isn’t it fair to say, putting politics and ideology aside, that it really IS true that the school has struggled in recent years? While most good schools - and nearly all Florida state schools - have seen applications and admissions standard skyrocket, things have been stagnant / declining at NCF for years. Few students who are qualified for admission to top schools now are seriously considering NCF. UF’s standards are much higher now than NCF’s and historically it was the opposite.
I’m not saying that admissions standards are the be all and end all, but they do serve as a proxy for how a school is progressing. And with NCF being a state school and with a state’s budget being limited, why isn’t it fair for the state to take a look at what it might do to make NCF more competitive in the educational marketplace?
Isn’t it fair to say, putting politics and ideology aside, that it really IS true that the school has struggled in recent years? While most good schools - and nearly all Florida state schools - have seen applications and admissions standard skyrocket, things have been stagnant / declining at NCF for years. Few students who are qualified for admission to top schools now are seriously considering NCF. UF’s standards are much higher now than NCF’s and historically it was the opposite.
I’m not saying that admissions standards are the be all and end all, but they do serve as a proxy for how a school is progressing. And with NCF being a state school and with a state’s budget being limited, why isn’t it fair for the state to take a look at what it might do to make NCF more competitive in the educational marketplace?
Anonymous
02/01/2023 07:23
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All of you that think this is awesome and NBD, please now stop attacking/questioning the parents that say their children will not go to college in states that have politics they strongly disagree with. Asserting they are overreacting and that would not impact the student experience and then applauding this.
I think the sad part is that the school will likely fail. The goal is to turn it into something the current students would hate and thus drive them out and I don’t see a huge demand for the kind of school it is with a reactionary conservative bent.
You don't need a huge demand, just enough to fill the classes.
Who is going to teach these classes? The current faculty aren't sticking around.
Anonymous
02/01/2023 07:10
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: DeSantis doesn't GAF about New College. He wants to be President and he thinks this stunt will help. Sadly, he's probably right.
Yep, it’s all political theater from this Yale-Harvard elitist graduate who now masquerades as someone who cares about common folk.
Just like Trump, he’s able to trick the uneducated electorate into voting against their own interests. None of DeSantis’ supporters will actually benefit in any way from this New College stunt.
And who, exactly, is "voting against their own interests"? Be specific. Because your interests are most definitely not going to be mine.
Again - this isn't a "stunt." It's a governor carrying out his duties, just like other governors. Deal with it.
The people he has appointed for the most part do not have PhD‘s or any actual experience in higher education. The exception is a professor from the Claremont Institute in California. Again, it’s highly unusual that the people appointed to be on the board of a public university in a state are all from outside the state, and for the vast majority have no actual experience in higher education this is not how things are normally done
Anonymous
02/01/2023 07:01
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Yes
Anonymous
02/01/2023 03:13
Subject: DeSantis Wants to Takeover Progressive College
Anonymous wrote:All of you that think this is awesome and NBD, please now stop attacking/questioning the parents that say their children will not go to college in states that have politics they strongly disagree with. Asserting they are overreacting and that would not impact the student experience and then applauding this.
I think the sad part is that the school will likely fail. The goal is to turn it into something the current students would hate and thus drive them out and I don’t see a huge demand for the kind of school it is with a reactionary conservative bent.
You don't need a huge demand, just enough to fill the classes.