Anonymous
12/08/2022 10:12
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got a 1380 on the PSAT 11, and it lists her as 99th percentile. She went down from 1400 on the PSAT 10. No big shock since the 11 is a harder test, and she did not study at all.
The percentiles are different for different grade levels, but the test difficulty and score are the same between PSAT10 and PSAT/NMSQT. Exact same test format. PSAT/NMSQT (or PSAT 11, if you prefer) is not - or at least, is not designed to be - harder than the PSAT10.
Going down in score - happened to one of my kids too on the fall 2019 PSAT - is often the result of scoring scales that are harsher for an easier test, but perhaps too harsh/not well standardized. Basically boils down to not a great job by College Board in writing and scoring. While scores can vary within some window, a year-over-year substantial decrease should be uncommon.
Could also just mean the kid got lucky with his/her guesses the prior year and got unlucky in the current year.
Agreed.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 09:15
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid got a 1380 on the PSAT 11, and it lists her as 99th percentile. She went down from 1400 on the PSAT 10. No big shock since the 11 is a harder test, and she did not study at all.
The percentiles are different for different grade levels, but the test difficulty and score are the same between PSAT10 and PSAT/NMSQT. Exact same test format. PSAT/NMSQT (or PSAT 11, if you prefer) is not - or at least, is not designed to be - harder than the PSAT10.
Going down in score - happened to one of my kids too on the fall 2019 PSAT - is often the result of scoring scales that are harsher for an easier test, but perhaps too harsh/not well standardized. Basically boils down to not a great job by College Board in writing and scoring. While scores can vary within some window, a year-over-year substantial decrease should be uncommon.
Could also just mean the kid got lucky with his/her guesses the prior year and got unlucky in the current year.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 09:08
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me: the psat doesn’t matter.
If you’re gunning for commended or nms finalist, sure. But for the vast majority of kids, it has no bearing on anything related to college.
Go study for the sat or act if you think your kid will need test scores to set themselves apart a bit more. But it’s ok to go test optional.
No, not for all schools it's not. Many schools are starting require SAT or ACT for fall 2024 freshmen.
I think "many" is a stretch. Only about 30 or so now I think, and of those, only a few top schools.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 09:00
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:My kid got a 1380 on the PSAT 11, and it lists her as 99th percentile. She went down from 1400 on the PSAT 10. No big shock since the 11 is a harder test, and she did not study at all.
The percentiles are different for different grade levels, but the test difficulty and score are the same between PSAT10 and PSAT/NMSQT. Exact same test format. PSAT/NMSQT (or PSAT 11, if you prefer) is not - or at least, is not designed to be - harder than the PSAT10.
Going down in score - happened to one of my kids too on the fall 2019 PSAT - is often the result of scoring scales that are harsher for an easier test, but perhaps too harsh/not well standardized. Basically boils down to not a great job by College Board in writing and scoring. While scores can vary within some window, a year-over-year substantial decrease should be uncommon.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 08:54
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me: the psat doesn’t matter.
If you’re gunning for commended or nms finalist, sure. But for the vast majority of kids, it has no bearing on anything related to college.
Go study for the sat or act if you think your kid will need test scores to set themselves apart a bit more. But it’s ok to go test optional.
No, not for all schools it's not. Many schools are starting require SAT or ACT for fall 2024 freshmen.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 08:03
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
My kid got a 1380 on the PSAT 11, and it lists her as 99th percentile. She went down from 1400 on the PSAT 10. No big shock since the 11 is a harder test, and she did not study at all.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 06:32
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Repeat after me: the psat doesn’t matter.
If you’re gunning for commended or nms finalist, sure. But for the vast majority of kids, it has no bearing on anything related to college.
Go study for the sat or act if you think your kid will need test scores to set themselves apart a bit more. But it’s ok to go test optional.
If you’re gunning for commended or nms finalist, sure. But for the vast majority of kids, it has no bearing on anything related to college.
Go study for the sat or act if you think your kid will need test scores to set themselves apart a bit more. But it’s ok to go test optional.
Anonymous
12/07/2022 11:50
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Well my junior got his scores last night and did worse than he did sophomore yearand he did not do well sophomore year.
I would conclude that he wasn't that engaged in the questions. If you are just ho-humming your way through it b/c you know it doesn't matter for anything... you might not do that well.
Anonymous
12/07/2022 11:44
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Well my junior got his scores last night and did worse than he did sophomore year
Dayum
Anonymous
12/07/2022 11:36
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1340 = 98th percentage for 9th grader.
1240 ---and we are also 98th percentile? thats weird
Your DC is not an 11th grader
They are a 9th grader as is the poster above
Anonymous
12/07/2022 10:11
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:The only percentile chart I am aware of, currently, is this one: https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/understanding-scores/psat-nmsqt/user-percentiles
USER percentile is the applicable number, not national, even though College Board reports quote national. (They like to make it sound higher than it actually is.)
Interestingly enough, 1340 is, indeed, 98th percentile for 10th grade, though 94th percentile for 11th grade.
That explains it! Another pp (maybe it was you) talked about this but did not come back to explain how they could impute scores for those that did not take the test.
Percentile scores are 99/97 for 1420, 99/96 for a 1380, etc. Makes sense. College board should not be misrepresenting this info.
Anonymous
12/07/2022 07:58
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anyone else's kid's score still showing "pending?"
Anonymous
12/07/2022 07:47
Subject: Re:2022 PSAT Scores
Well my junior got his scores last night and did worse than he did sophomore year and he did not do well sophomore year.
and he did not do well sophomore year.
Anonymous
12/06/2022 22:04
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1340 = 98th percentage for 9th grader.
1240 ---and we are also 98th percentile? thats weird
Your DC is not an 11th grader
Anonymous
12/06/2022 22:02
Subject: 2022 PSAT Scores
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only percentile chart I am aware of, currently, is this one: https://research.collegeboard.org/reports/sat-suite/understanding-scores/psat-nmsqt/user-percentiles
USER percentile is the applicable number, not national, even though College Board reports quote national. (They like to make it sound higher than it actually is.)
Interestingly enough, 1340 is, indeed, 98th percentile for 10th grade, though 94th percentile for 11th grade.
I think the percentile is on the score report. My 12th grader checked his scores this morning and the percentile was listed as well.
Typo that should have been 11th grader